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I don't know if it would qualify as a "city knife" but the Gunting could serve as the foundation of a very comfortable short bladed knife. I would like to see a knife with the same length as the Gunting (27/8&quot<img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> or maybe 2.5"but without the sharp point on top for opening or self defense; the blade should also be wide like the Gunting blade to maximize the effectiveness of its short length. The handle could also be bit short, say 4.5" instead of 5". That would give the knife an overall length of 7 3/8" which would mean that it has a very comfortable handle to go with a blade that would be legal in most areas of the world where locking folders are allowed. Of course, I would like to see the G-10 scales and compression lock retained. The only other change would be a repositioning of the Gunting clip. My guess is that this would not take a lot of retooling. Does it sound reasonable Sal?

Speaking of knife colors, I, for one, would love to see more knives with colored handles, especially the FRN models. How costly is it to produce FRN knives in different colors?

--Matt

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Edited by - Mundele on 1/24/2001 6:41:09 PM

"I'm currently planning the anodized versions in Blue, green and a purple. With a design in the handle. One version in Titan with the integral compression lock."

Yes indeed this Salsa is going to be hot and spicey, I can hardly wait. Sal, are there going to be any other differences between the versions other than the scales? I recall you saying that one variation will have a flat ground blade.

Clay

Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted before.

Edited by - Clay Kesting on 1/25/2001 4:45:43 AM

Sal, if a "Salsa" is what I want, it would be nice to see one. Gotta make purchase plans, and hopefully they will be readily available in Canada.

Hi Dac. anything is possible, but customs. How would you reposition the clip?

FRN colors only require about 500 pieces. The problem is in inventory and promotion for dealers and distributors.

Full flat grinds are not as popular as hollows or combinations with swedges. At this time, I haven't decided the other grinds, but I plan to use a full flat on the Titan version.

sal

full flat grind Ti Salsa with an integral compression lock


Sal, you know exactly how to get into my wallet. I'll be all over that one. It would be absolutely perfect if you put a LH/RH clip on it so I could carry either side.

Is there a blade steel choice yet? I think VG-10 would be wonderful on the colored ones and <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>S90V<img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> on the Ti. Might be a little pricey, but would be perfect for the aficionado. Maybe at least a sprint run in it for us<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Thanks for the info Sal. I for one will be following the evolution of the Salsa with much interest <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>.

Take care,

Clay

Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted before.

Sal,

About the anodized Salsa, what kind of design were you thinking of putting on the handle-- some kind of inlay/insert or medallion, or as part of the anodizing?

Sal,

What is your expected release date of the Salsa ?

(I don;t mean to make this into a "Salsa" topic from the original thread, but this sounds too good to let go?

Sal, I would like to see the clip on the Gunting placed near the top of the handle and slightly to the left. That would leave the screw open to adjustment without removing the clip. The other alternative would be installing a clip likt that on the Chinook, Military, or Starmate. That way this utility version of the Gunting would ride much lower in the pocket. On second thought, there is no need to make the handle any shorter, just remove the ridge on the top of the blade and reposition the clip and the Gunting would be a great short bladed uitlity knife for people with big hands.

Hey Tique. Yes, Left/right tip up clip. With "Cobra hood".

Carlos. I was planning on doing something with the anodizing to create color change. However, once the pattern is refined and accepted, any combination is possible.

Tom. Late summer is the plan.

The only pic I can offer is the one that Knifecenter took at the SHOT show. Though we didn't want him to take the pic, it's the only pic out there. Carlos reproduced it for Bladeforums. I felt that the bladeforums forum was still a little too public for the model. Fewer people here. We can't post photos here yet.

sal

Hi Sal,

Sounds interesting. Would you also be able to create those "splash" effects as well?

BTW, if you want the aluminum Salsa to have a hollow-ground blade for more eye-candy appeal than the Ti version, then might I suggest two of your previous blade patterns as points to start from:

1. The Blackhawk -- clip point bowie's are always popular it seems, though people were confused by this one due to the handle shape. This blade type, shortened slightly modified for Salsa, might deserve a second chance.

2. The Worker -- a wider and shorter version of this blade pattern with a higher hollow-grind might give great performace, while appealing to those who don't get flat-grinds. You could even call it "Worker 2." <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Clay,

Since you brought up the "bolster" issue, can you explain these things to me? They do seem to be growing in popularity both on gentrified tactical folders, and city knives. What is their function, and why should we put them on our city knives?

Carlos,

I'm not really sure about the function of bolsters. Someone more conversant with the the art of traditional knife making would be better placed to answer that part of your question. I find myself torn between the appearance of traditional folders with polished bolsters and wood or bone scales and the superior utility and better blade steels found in modern designs. The Solo models are good examples of knives which are a happy marriage of the two. Why should we have bolsters on our city knives? Being more traditional and less "tactical" looking they may be less likely to cause alarm, especially with pearl or white bone (micarta) scales. I suppose we also get into the area of "male jewellery" here, there are times when I would like to carry something which is a bit fancy and "different". It will be interesting to see the market reaction to the new Benchmade with CF bolsters and wood scales.

Probably I'm just showing my age <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>, these are the knives I grew up with.

Clay

Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted before.

Carlos. I'd like to stick with the one blade pattern. It's very wide which offers some advantages. There are many things that can be done with swedges though (for eye candy).

Originally, bolsters offered both looks and strength around the pivot area. Technology now provides the strength.

sal

Clay,

When your Chinese folder finally arrives you'll be all set for "fancy and different" and in one package. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>


Sal,

Thanks for the techncal explanation. BTW, I used to be a chef, and I still prefer wwwiiiiiidddee blades too. <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> So are you thinking of a hollow-grind and swedge for the aluminum Salsa?

Edited by - Carlos on 1/28/2001 10:56:43 AM

Hi Clay. Yes, that's the plan. Opinion? I think I'll start a new thread for the Salsa.

sal

Hi Sal,

I can live with a hollow-grind as long as it is is high, and ground very thin. I don't know what kind of a swedge you are thinking about -- a spine swedge like the Calypso Jr/Chinese folder or more of a Police/Native style. For what it is worth I find the spine swedge the least objectionable.

I agree it might be better to have a new Salsa thread.

BTW Sal, did you just call me "Clay?" <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Hi Carlos. guess I did, apologies.

sal