Manix Lightweight in S110V

[me2]

Ah ok. What can it hurt. Large CS Voyager.

[MacLaren]

Yes it was changed from the info that I have.

The LW I tested 2 years ago was 62.

The Military is 63-64.

When that was changed I have no idea, I call it progression. :spyder:

I would expect the sister models to have comparable performance.

Big Chris just posted a new Millie in S110V. Said the Rockwell was 62. Did something change? Or can they vary? The Millie was re-ground and re-profiled as well.
Actually, Big Chris said " Rockwell tested to 62rc"
Not sure if that makes a difference.

[me2]

It varies. There is variation in the hardness testers and variation in the blades. Most times a variation of+/-1 is reasonable. 63 +/- 1 send to be the range for S110V from Spyderco, based on the tests reported from other sources, since Spyderco doesn't give hardened for their blades that I've seen.

[MacLaren]

It varies. There is variation in the hardness testers and variation in the blades. Most times a variation of+/-1 is reasonable. 63 +/- 1 send to be the range for S110V from Spyderco, based on the tests reported from other sources, since Spyderco doesn't give hardened for their blades that I've seen.

Thank you.

[me2]

Just started a little more testing of these two knives. After cutting 400 + feet of cardboard with each knife, I can't tell any difference in sharpness between the S110V Manix and the BD1 Voyager using qualitative methods like shaving hair and cutting phone book paper, or with measurements of sharpness by push cutting light thread. I'll probably try again after~1000 feet.

[me2]

I did a bit more testing and got up to maybe 600 feet. Both still slice paper. Both are dull by my standards. When taking sharpness measurements, they are too close to say which is sharper. I don't see any difference in use or testing with respect to edge holding at this point, so I'm just going to sharpen them and carry as normal. I'll check back after a bit if anything unusual shows itself.

[me2]

Perhaps a fluke, or tape residue on the edge, but the Manix went from splitting beard hair sharp to being able to run my finger down the edge without fear dull in less than 12 cuts to open a box. I'll clean it and check again, but if it really dulled that fast, the S110V Manix may have just relegated itself to research use only.

[Evil D]

When Ankerson did his testing on S110V he cut an entire linear mile of cardboard and it would still slice paper. When properly sharpened S110V's working edge is practically endless unless the edge takes damage or you're cutting something extremely abrasive like roofing shingles or carpet or drywall etc. It should cut cardboard for such a long time that there is no practical real world equivalent that a person might find themselves in to need that much edge retention, and this is coming from a guy who used to work in a corrugation factory and deliberately cut a lot of corrugated just because I could. This is also speaking of factory ground blades....if you regrind one to be thinner behind the edge, I've seen a blunt edge still capable of cleanly slicing thick cardboard, so a thin ground S110V blade with a proper sharp edge is honestly something like 99.9% "immortal" when it comes to cutting cardboard. There is literally no reason it shouldn't cut forever, and if it doesn't then someone either A) left a burr on the edge or B) damaged the edge somehow other than while cutting the cardboard.

[dodgie02]

I have extensive experience with S110V, I've been using a pm2 and manix 2 lw both in S110V for 2 years and both saw daily hard use. This differs from light work like cardboard and lots of it, to thick rubber, and it handles it like a champ. I sharpen them once a month, only on diamond and medium rods, and I'll microbevel it with uf stones. This takes it from a good working edge to a scary sharp edge capable of shaving the hair off a porcupine. There have been instances where I accidentally hit steel with force, and half of the time no discernable chips were visible and if it chipped it was quite minimal. It takes some getting used to when compared to sharpening easier steels but for me it has become the baseline in sharpening, to the point that sharpening s30v, cruwear, and other steels has become very easy and even surprises me in how fast I get a shaving edge.

That being said the tradeoff has been worth it a million times to me. It keeps on going, sharpening is a breeze if you don't let it dull completely, S110V has become my 'no-worries' steel by far. Its seen abuse, accidents like falling on stones, but together with the phenomenal build quality and steel quality it has proven itself again and again to the point I don't even blink an eye if it falls or something similar. I carry this and a 940-2 which was gifted to me and I find myself going for the manix every time if I need something done and done right.

Sublime stuff. Sublime blade. Gifted a m2 lw S110V to a mate and he's astounded by it as well.

[me2]

The working edge is still there. It will slice paper with some effort. Its not great though. It took less than 12 cuts to drop down that much though. The blade has been sharpened before, so overheating from the factory shouldn't be a problem. I want to resharpen and see if it happens again. I just switched over ttyl only diamond on this blade, so I'll go through that again. FWIW, I'm pretty sure the BD1 blade could cut a mile of cardboard and still slice paper too. I've done a kilometer (0.6 miles) with much cheaper knives.