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It is not the blade length of the ladybug or dogtag that makes them less dangerous it is the handle length.

A quick google search about box cutters or utility knives as weapons should show you what I mean. Talk to a an ER doctor or a corrections officer about the danger of utility knives and you might be surprised what you hear. It is one of the most common weapons used in attacks and ER doctors see that all the time. Corrections officers confiscate makeshift shivs with very short blades all the time and they are used very effectively by inmates. A knife can cut much deeper than the blade is long and you can sever blood vessels, tendons, ligaments and hit bone almost everywhere on a human body with a very short blade. Sure a larger blade can stab deeper and gives you more reach but do not underestimate the cutting ability in a slashing motion of just a one inch blade if you have enough handle to hold onto.

I believe that there is actually a point where the blade is so long that you're limited by the force required to cut that much material. I believe that I've heard the Delica is optimal length for a slashing cut.

Yeah, the pictures I've seen on the damage a stanley style razor blade can do are pretty scary.

Sometimes I think the swick3 is the ideal self defence knife. The ergos are exceptional and you can grapple with it in your hand. It would be hard to drop it or have it knocked from your hand due to the index finger hole and the wharncliffe style blade (not quite a wharncliffe by my definition) excels at slashing cuts due to the fact that it focuses all of its force towards the tip. This is the idea behind the yojimbo and the tactical wharncliffe market in general. The swick3 is a 3.7 mm thick blade shaped like a utility knife but much stronger. Fred Perrin had this in mind when he designed "le griffe" which is a knife which I have to believe heavily influenced the swick knives. The swick3 seams like a utility knife on steroids with amazing ergos and a rock solid grip and the blade is just long enough to make the cuts neccesary to incapacitate an attacker if you are targeting key muscles, tendons and ligaments. I would probably prefer to have my swick3 over my Military in a self defence situation which is counter intuitive to many people.

Pat,

I was looking at a picture of the Dog Tag opened. Most Spyderco slipjoints have a choil. If the blade disengages while you're holding it with your finger in the choil, your finger will stop it from closing.

I don't see any way to do this feature on the Dog Tag. What sort of protection do you get from the Dog Tag closing on your fingers when the blade releases?

I'm awaiting the "shadow" version of the dog tag.
How do I sharpen a chisel grind blade?
Do I treat it like a se blade on the sharp maker

?eg 5x corners swipes on the grind side and 1x swipe on the flat stone on the unsharpened side (to remove any Burr's)
or do I only sharpen the actual edge?

Thanks in advance

I know with my chisel ground SE edges, I like to tilt the side with no angle to be almost flat with the stone. The grinding on that side is just to remove the burr.

The blade is so tiny that I myself would probably not use the base and just sharpen by hand using the rods like a file and like already mentioned I would hold the stone as close to flat as possible along the back just enough times to prevent or eliminate a bur. Really with this being a straight cutting edge only one inch long it would be extremely easy to sharpen with a bench stone and that is the route I may go when I finally get one myself.

Just saw your question donut, sorry. I handled one at the SFO and there is nothing to prevent it from closing on your finger. The detent is not extremely strong either. It is so small that when holding it in a normal grip you are inclined to place your thumb on top and that makes it easy to close when you tighten your grip and apply pressure. The up side is that it is so small that you shouldn't be using it very hard and without a pointy tip you shouldn't be making any stabbing or puncture type cuts with it. It is really a pinch grip knife used for light utility in my eyes. Opening packages and whatnot. I might even be inclined to choke up and actually pinch the blade myself.

Dig this thread, thank you.

2 Questions:

When is the black slated for release?

Also, during that time did it require any screw adjustments?

It's a micro non-locking folder (not even a slipjoint). Assuming it's not being displayed it is legal in NYC and even displayed it's legal in England.

The conversation of it's deadliness is valid, anything could be used as a tool of carnage I guess :rolleyes:. The question of legality isn't valid though unless you're talking about taking it to schools or government buildings in NYC or something similar in England.

Thanks for the sharping tips , dounut and bearfacedkiller, : ) they are really helpful
Thank you
Spyder moist

Good to hear you're enjoying the DogTag, endgame.

Hi Serge,

Welcome to our forum and thanx much for visiting. Oviously our visitors like your designs.

The "shadow" version is in and is scheduled to go through QC.

sal

endgame wrote:
...I used to cut zip ties ,cardboard, carrots herbs, pheasant,french the bones on lamb,beef,.venison,pheasant ,and pillard.

Is the frenching done for amusement as that seems to be an odd choice for it, cutting the zip ties and cardboard I can understand.

Thank you Sal, good to be here.

Serge