Brand New ENDURA has EDGE NICK: What should I do everyone?

Evil D · #21

I would simply draw the line between the intended use of the knife. If the OP were a collector and wanted to preserve the factory edge for a mint condition knife then I would definitely recommend contacting the seller or Spyderco for an exchange, which I don't think is unreasonable. However if the OP plans on using the knife then that small of a blemish is likely to happen the first time it's used, especially with the factory edge which has been proven to often be prone to chipping due to heat stress from the factory sharpening process.

spyderHS08 · #22

First off spyderedge do you have a sharpener? If not you may want to contact the dealer and at least let them know you had some issues and don't have a way of fixing the blade on your own. But if you do own a sharpener and the nick isn't too major I would use it and sharpen it as others have said.

jalcon · #23

I would just sharpen it, esp if it is very small. Not worth hassle of sending back IMO.

With that said, I understand any disappointment you have. I mean sure, it's going to get used, have nicks, scrapes on it anyway....BUT...I want to be the one to put them there, haha. I would expect it to be unblemished from factory when brand new.

SpyderEdgeForever · #24

I have to admit something and I hope you all don't look down on me for this: I love knives and have been a knife enthusiast for years. And yet, I have almost never sharpened a knife. I have tried my hand at it a few times over the years, but sortof got used to mediocre sharpness on my knives. I was considering getting a Sharp maker. My two main sharpeners that I have used are: 1 A hand held thing with a finger guard that has the v shaped tungsten carbide rods in it, and a keychain Fiskars/Gerber sharpener that uses the same basic configuration.

What I want to do is take a picture of the Endura with the nick ( I have not touched it yet except to examine it) and then I am going to sharpen it and take an after picture so you all can see what kindof a job I did.

As far as my main purpose for it: General use, cutting cardboard, opening mail, cutting cord and also food preparation and as a folding steak knife.

SpyderEdgeForever · #25

Here are the Before and After Pics of the Endura PE knife:

Pic 1: Before, the knife with the nick in the edge. Tell me if you can see it

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Pic 2: After I used one of those cheap table top sharpeners with the ceramic wheels inside. I ran the edge back and forth a few times through it.

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Tell me what you all think. I am sure I can do a better job of it.

When I just held it up to the light, I noticed the nick is not as apparent.

Souta112` · #26

SpyderEdgeForever wrote:Here are the Before and After Pics of the Endura PE knife:

Pic 1: Before, the knife with the nick in the edge. Tell me if you can see it

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Pic 2: After I used one of those cheap table top sharpeners with the ceramic wheels inside. I ran the edge back and forth a few times through it.

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Tell me what you all think. I am sure I can do a better job of it.

When I just held it up to the light, I noticed the nick is not as apparent.

Here's my advice. Buy a DMT diafold blue and red (or a bench stone from Lowes/home depot/ect...), a Spyderco Tenacious, or some other sub 30$ knife from a reputable brand and learn how to hand sharpen. It, IMHO, is an invaluable tool to have. Hand sharpening, that is.

It took me a year or so to get to where I am now, and I'm still refining my technique. But I can get a knife sharp by hand now.

If not that option, then get a sharp maker and learn how to use it. Touch up the factory edge as needed. That is a decent long term solution. Should keep you going indefinetly, unless you don't have a sharp maker with you...

Just my humble 2¢...

P.S. I can see it, yes. But to me, if you're going to use the knife, then I'd sharpen it and move on. :)

jalcon · #27

Those pull through sharpeners do nothing but bad things to edges. Get a sharpmaker. It's pretty fool proof IMO.

Evil D · #28

I've seen some motorized sharpeners that seem reliable for setting an even 30 degree bevel, but the risk of removing too much steel is too Mich for me to bother with.

Surfingringo · #29

Souta112` wrote:Here's my advice. Buy a DMT diafold blue and red (or a bench stone from Lowes/home depot/ect...), a Spyderco Tenacious, or some other sub 30$ knife from a reputable brand and learn how to hand sharpen. It, IMHO, is an invaluable tool to have. Hand sharpening, that is.

It took me a year or so to get to where I am now, and I'm still refining my technique. But I can get a knife sharp by hand now.

If not that option, then get a sharp maker and learn how to use it. Touch up the factory edge as needed. That is a decent long term solution. Should keep you going indefinetly, unless you don't have a sharp maker with you...

Just my humble 2¢...

P.S. I can see it, yes. But to me, if you're going to use the knife, then I'd sharpen it and move on. :)

^ this is great advice. I started with that exact tool...the blue and red (coarse/fine) diafold. Great tool and I did my homework (lots of time on youtube and BF maintenance subforum) and really learned to sharpen a knife freehand. After a few months I bought a sharpmaker. Learning to get the most out of the sharpmaker was a breeze after the freehand education I had given myself. And though I can get my blades extremely sharp freehand, I can just take them to another level (free hanging hair whittling) by using the sm to do my microbevels. If I were you I would buy the sharpmaker with diamond rods, and the dmt coarse/xcoarse (black and blue). This is a hundred dollar set up that will sharpen any knife you own and bring you countless hours of satisfaction. You should give it a shot. I get sooo much moe enjoyment out of this knife hobby because of the sharpening aspect. Enjoy.

3rdGenRigger · #30

Avoid pull through sharpener at ALL costs...they don't work very well, and may cause the nick to become larger. I have shaky hands and I'm not very good at sharpening, but a little practice on the Sharpmaker and I can get most of my knives to easily cut thin receipt paper...with a few exceptions (Blade shape...I find I have the most trouble getting my Chokwe Sharp) and I need to refine my technique accordingly. Fortunately the Endura is an easy shape to learn on.

this_is_nascar · #31

SpyderEdgeForever wrote:I just received a brand new Spyderco Endura (Saber Grind, Plain Edge) from a very good and reputable seller, but, I was looking over the edge..and there is an almost imperceptible slight nick/tiny notch in the edge, partly down from the point. Should I go through the trouble of sending it back if I can, for a replacement, or should I just keep it, and perhaps sand or sharpen the nick away? What would you all do? Has anyone here ever had that happen/received a knife with that?

I might take a picture of it if I can and post it here.

With all due respect, why is this even a debate on what you should do? Send it back for a replacement.

Brock O Lee · #32

3rdGenRigger wrote:Avoid pull through sharpener at ALL costs...

Strongly agree...

A bit off topic, but see this cool link for pictures showing the carnage caused by most pull-through sharpeners.

http://sharpeningtechniques.blogspot.co ... after.html

My 2c, DMT extra coarse/coarse for lowering a bevel and a Sharpmaker to maintain the micro-bevel is a good starting point.

It's also a lot less expensive than an Edge Pro or Wicked Edge.

Chumango · #33

Lots of good pictures here of edges sharpened using different equipment....

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/downloads/pd ... shexps.pdf

Surfingringo · #34

this_is_nascar wrote:With all due respect, why is this even a debate on what you should do? Send it back for a replacement.

Wasn't much of a debate. Pretty much everyone agreed that he should keep it and sharpen it. :)

jalcon · #35

Chumango wrote:Lots of good pictures here of edges sharpened using different equipment....

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/downloads/pd ... shexps.pdf

Holy crap.

razorsharp · #36

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9XIO4gVMeQ enjoy this silly video I did

this_is_nascar · #37

Surfingringo wrote:Wasn't much of a debate. Pretty much everyone agreed that he should keep it and sharpen it. :)

****. You guys show more acceptance for subpar quality than I do.

Officer Gigglez · #38

Send the dealer an Email letting them know, then tell them I'm keeping it and just sharpen out the nick.

Officer Gigglez · #39

this_is_nascar wrote:****. You guys show more acceptance for subpar quality than I do.

IN this case, it is very easy to fix, and sometimes things happen. Not a big deal.

Surfingringo · #40

this_is_nascar wrote:****. You guys show more acceptance for subpar quality than I do.

Nah, some people see it like you and I totally understand, but everybody is different. I like to follow the path of least resistance. In this case, it's MUCH less hassle to sharpen out a tiny nick than send the knife in and wait for weeks for it to come back. But even though I'm not very picky, I'm glad that some of you are. We need guys that demand the most of companies and vendors. That keeps them on their toes. Guys like you are the reason that guys like me don't have to put up with many quality issues. :)