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I also agree that the jimping could be more functional. I do feel that it's better than no jimping at all, but only just. I have the same complaint with my PPT, but those are my only complaints about those knives, otherwise they're awesome.
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Were the lock ambidextrous and no flipper on it it would be a different knife-and probably one for me.
The blade curve and cutting edge length are tempting but flippers are not an option for me (since that belt-clipped Evo decided not to stay closed) and I use both my hands to manipulate my knives. I take slipjoints over integral- or liner locks but Spyderco provides us with everything a knifenut can dream of!
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dsmegst wrote: Trying to open it with the thumbhole is proving to be harder. I can flick it just fine but a slow deliberate opening is not happening for me. I wish the Spydiehole's edge has a little more bite to it, it seems overly rounded for good traction..
The Southard was designed as a flipper period! Yes, you can open it by the thumb hole but in no means should it be judged by such. IT WAS NOT DESIGNED FOR THUMB HOLE DEPLOYMENT!

Does anyone that actually uses the Southard for day to day work think it needs dual choils or sharp jimping? I have beat on this knife for over a month and find it the best Spyderco to date.
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Leatherneck wrote: Does anyone that actually uses the Southard for day to day work think it needs dual choils or sharp jimping? I have beat on this knife for over a month and find it the best Spyderco to date.
I use mine everyday and think its an amazing design, the ergos keep it in hand and the edge comes close to my index finger, bout 12 mm so it doesnt need a choil really, doesnt really need jimping as the ergos are very good but its nice to have it there. Ive opened a couple paintcans (dont do this lol) split some 60x10mm bits of pine as stirers, cut air hoses, collapsed boxes, cut plenty of zipties, and the southard asks for more. Ive done a lot of cutting and i dont feel the need to touch up the edge as its still aggressive (it was sharpened at 600 grit 16 dps) and it can still shave off the odd leg hair. So the steel is definitely performing like it should

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Evil D wrote:...and if I handled it I may change my tune (it's happened that way several times in the past).
I was guessing you had handled it already. You re in for a surprise when you do! I don't LOVE how thick it is in the pocket (especially compared to most other Spydies), but the handle feel is among the best! The clip is another subject all together.
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Leatherneck wrote:The Southard was designed as a flipper period! Yes, you can open it by the thumb hole but in no means should it be judged by such. IT WAS NOT DESIGNED FOR THUMB HOLE DEPLOYMENT!

Does anyone that actually uses the Southard for day to day work think it needs dual choils or sharp jimping? I have beat on this knife for over a month and find it the best Spyderco to date.
Sure, it's primarily a flipper. But if the knife was ONLY a flipper, there's no need for the deeper cutout on the front scales. The shallower one needs to be there to allow for space to disengage the lock, but why have the deeper cutout for full access to the thumbhole? My point is that if certain features are put into a knife, then it should be done to be as functional as possible.

Also, if I was judging the knife based on the thumbhole or the top jimping, then my score would be a lot lower.
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Don't want to prolong the argument, but the deeper cut-out does have a purpose aside from giving access to the hole. At least for me, my index finger falls right in that space, and I feel that this feature is a huge reason why the knife feels so comfortable to grip.
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Yes, the deep cut-out allows for a great grip against the flipper when open. There is probably an aesthetic aspect to it also as it allows the Spydie hole to be seen in its entirety. What makes this knife flip well is the nicely done detent and that makes thumb hole opening difficult. My Skyline doesn't flip for crap and the new BMs seem to have an issue also. I'll take the detent over ease of hole opening as that is what this knife is all about. There are Spydie holes on fixed blades also...
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Outstanding thread. :D
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Well - I fixed the clip issue on the knife - or I should say STR fixed it and I bought the fix.
Did the stonewash myself.
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Evil D wrote:I say this about EVERY new model I buy.
hahaha same here
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Evil D wrote:I say this about EVERY new model I buy.
PatCatMan wrote:Well - I fixed the clip issue on the knife - or I should say STR fixed it and I bought the fix.
Did the stonewash myself.
that clip looks awesome!
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I like it the most,thanks for sharing it
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Fortunately this is one that didn't appeal to me. I have too many that I
want without this one. Not a big flipper fan. Like all Spyderco's, its a great
knife for those that like it.
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Oh, I've etched then stonewashed the clip, looks more of a match to the frame.
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Oh, how do YOU sharpen yours?
In Anticipation of it being a bear to sharpen, I've resurfaced my paper wheel system and plan on using it to sharpen.
What do you think?
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with the thinness behind the edge, it is very easy to reprofile and from personal experience, touchups are easy too
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ordered one today... :rolleyes:
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toomzz wrote:ordered one today... :rolleyes:
hahaha, i feel like ill be right behind you....
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So razorsharp, it looks like you reprofiled yours pretty thin, looks good. Seems like a great move.
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