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When is the Carbon Fiber Chaparral with CTS XHP going to be available?

Back to Sal's comment, I think an FRN Native would be a great and price-conscious way to try out new steels if it is slated to have them.

I will probably pick up one of these Chaparrals once i have some disposable income again. It looks to be one of the best gentleman folders I've seen, and I am fond of it for the same reasons as Paul/Deacon/

A twin for my Chaparral in XHP is a must for 2013! I 10x prefer CF to Ti, just G10 ranging above it as it feels softer.

Thanks :spyder: for so many great knives and continuing progress in 2013 even though 2012 brought up lots of great innovations!!

tvhaugen wrote:When is the Carbon Fiber Chaparral with CTS XHP going to be available?

Bump for this...I'm wondering as well.

1623 wrote:Bump for this...I'm wondering as well.

I think the official release date is "later". :)

I wonder what the resellers will do with the S30V Chaparrals they have? Will they try to get rid of them even after they get some XHP models and not advertise the XHP? I doubt it. I'm sure they will sell whatever they can get their hands on. :D Maybe the S30V knives will be available for a little less than the "now" prices (Howe's is good at that :) ). Will the XHP be higher based on the steel? Maybe lower??? :rolleyes: I've wondered that.

Jack

jackknifeh wrote:I think the official release date is "later". :)

I wonder what the resellers will do with the S30V Chaparrals they have? Will they try to get rid of them even after they get some XHP models and not advertise the XHP? I doubt it. I'm sure they will sell whatever they can get their hands on. :D Maybe the S30V knives will be available for a little less than the "now" prices (Howe's is good at that :) ). Will the XHP be higher based on the steel? Maybe lower??? :rolleyes: I've wondered that.

Jack

I'd assume that, unless the factory in Taichung has a stockpile of S30V blades on hand, the next batch of CF Chaparrals will be XHP. Depending on what Spyderco themselves had on hand in Golden, that batch may have already shipped, may not ship for a year, or ship anytime between now and then. I suspect that knowledgeable dealers will probably elect to sell out of their current stock of S30V Chaparrals before reordering and that less knowledgeable dealers will ship whatever they pull off the shelf. I'd also guess that the SKU number will remain the same, so the only way for them to tell without opening the box will be the date code. To me, that means that, depending on their level of commitment to FIFO stock rotation, some could be shipping S30V Chaparrals occasionally for a few years. As for the steels, I expect that, like every other change, some will be overjoyed, some will lament, and some won't notice.

The Deacon wrote:I'd assume that, unless the factory in Taichung has a stockpile of S30V blades on hand, the next batch of CF Chaparrals will be XHP. Depending on what Spyderco themselves had on hand in Golden, that batch may have already shipped, may not ship for a year, or ship anytime between now and then. I suspect that knowledgeable dealers will probably elect to sell out of their current stock of S30V Chaparrals before reordering and that less knowledgeable dealers will ship whatever they pull off the shelf. I'd also guess that the SKU number will remain the same, so the only way for them to tell without opening the box will be the date code. To me, that means that, depending on their level of commitment to FIFO stock rotation, some could be shipping S30V Chaparrals occasionally for a few years. As for the steels, I expect that, like every other change, some will be overjoyed, some will lament, and some won't notice.

Wow, I hadn't thought about ordering a Chaparral and not knowing what blade I was getting. Granted, 5 or 6 years ago I wouldn't have cared or maybe noticed. But having the S30V I don't need another one. I have thought about getting the XHP blade at some point though. I suppose every one who does care needs to specify it to the site they order from. I think the sites most of the people here order from will automatically know of this issue and definately would take the time to make sure the customer gets what he/she orders. Some sites have a picture of a plain edge when the description says serrated. I have ordered the wrong edge before because I didn't notice. It would be easy to make the same mistake with the blade steel, especiall if the price is the same. I assume the resellers will have the knives listed seperately like they do with VG-10 or ZDP blades on the same knife. But, the price of VG-10 and ZDP would be a clue you may not be ordering the one you want. In the Chaparral's case the handle will be the same unlike the FRN knives which is another clue. :)


Jack

I'm beginning to wonder if Spyderco is making the right move by changing the steel on the CF Chaparral. While it will simplify things for the maker, given the sh**storm CF laminate evoked, I'm afraid this change may unleash similar cries of foul from those who have a need to feel they've been victimized by someone.

The Deacon wrote:I'm beginning to wonder if Spyderco is making the right move by changing the steel on the CF Chaparral. While it will simplify things for the maker, given the sh**storm CF laminate evoked, I'm afraid this change may unleash similar cries of foul from those who have a need to feel they've been victimized by someone.

I don't think so Paul. Transitions can be painful but for me, the change to XHP is worth it. I guess we'll see.

Ken

The Deacon wrote:I'm beginning to wonder if Spyderco is making the right move by changing the steel on the CF Chaparral. While it will simplify things for the maker, given the sh**storm CF laminate evoked, I'm afraid this change may unleash similar cries of foul from those who have a need to feel they've been victimized by someone.

You are right. I'm beginning to feel victimized already. :) I like the way you phrased it "those who have a need". Seems like it's the same folks that feel cheated no matter what. Almost like they enjoy it.

I felt so victimized by the first S30V Chaparral, with the lumpy CF scales, that I got two of them. I won't pick up another one right now, but might down the road if one came out in a radically different stainless steel.

sal wrote:Hi Bh49,

We have many combinations planned for the Native5. We'd like to wait until the lightweight mold is finished to make them more affordable. Some will be coming our with the G-10 version.

sal

Sal, if you can find a way to slap a wire clip on a lightweight Native 5, add some CTS XHP (or any other high-end American steel) and keep it FFG, then you count on a purchase (let's be real, more like 2 :p ) from me.

I just received my new Chaparral, model C152CFP, and couldn't be happier.

A Benchmade 525 Mini Presidio with M4 steel was my under 3 inch carry. Very solid, same Axis design that I am used to, and a great handful of a knife when I needed to take a grip for serious work. I was looking for something trimmer, and yet functional. This Chaparral has met or exceeded all expectations! Lockup is vault solid. Blade almost exactly centered. Wonderful non-glare wire deep carry clip that makes a very light "knife" print. The small width of the Knife and smoothness of the carbon make for easy hand access to the contents of my pocket. Blade too still to flick open, but very smooth.

AND, the CTS XHP blade arrived literally hair splitting sharp. I have never had any factory knife from any maker arrive as sharp as this knife. And, many knifes have never reached this level of sharpness or would have a very hard time, including some Spyderco S30V blades. (of course, most of them have way thicker blades and bevels.)

At $96 including shipping this is really a best buy in a knife!

The CTS-XHP Chaps are out?

ZL1 wrote:The CTS-XHP Chaps are out?

Hard to say. The only "knifeconnection" my search brought up led to a site that doesn't seem to carry any Spyderco knives and a search for "Chaparral" from the site was fruitless as well.

I haven't seen an "in the wild" pic yet, but I haven't seen any new pictures of Chap 1's lately either.

I'm watching and waiting.

Picture of the Chaparral CTX-XHP in the wild. Just delivered.

jabba359 wrote:Hard to say. The only "knifeconnection" my search brought up led to a site that doesn't seem to carry any Spyderco knives and a search for "Chaparral" from the site was fruitless as well.

Sorry, not "knifeconnection", but rather an e-bay seller by the name of "yourknifeconnection". His ad also listed the Chaparral as having S30V steel, so it was a surprise to him to. See http://www.ebay.com/itm/330932187484?ss ... 1439.l2649

Raymond3 wrote: Picture of the Chaparral CTX-XHP in the wild. Just delivered.

It's beautiful. Needs more handle in the picture though - don't hide that lovely CF :D

Raymond3 wrote: Picture of the Chaparral CTX-XHP in the wild. Just delivered.


Sorry, not "knifeconnection", but rather an e-bay seller by the name of "yourknifeconnection". His ad also listed the Chaparral as having S30V steel, so it was a surprise to him to. See http://www.ebay.com/itm/330932187484?ss ... 1439.l2649

That's awesome. Thanks a lot for sharing. :)

Thanks for sharing. Interestingly enough, I was reading a bunch of threads earlier yesterday about the Chaparral and was trying to figure out when the CF version changed to XHP. Guess this answers that question!