Is 154CM Dead ?

INFRNL · #21

154CM is nowhere near dead, at least not through other manufacturers. Its the main steel for BM. I do not like it though, way too soft, edge dulls quickly. As for Spyderco, its definitely not used much and I am happy about that. Sometime this year I do not think you will be able to buy any new knives with 154cm, everything is going to at least S30V

Fred Sanford · #22

If I'm not mistaken, 154CM was originally made (and is used) for the blades of jet turbine engines. It has always been a great knife steel for me. I have no complaints and I hope it stays around for a looonng time.

Wolverine666 · #23

INFRNL wrote:154CM is nowhere near dead, at least not through other manufacturers. Its the main steel for BM. I do not like it though, way too soft, edge dulls quickly. As for Spyderco, its definitely not used much and I am happy about that. Sometime this year I do not think you will be able to buy any new knives with 154cm, everything is going to at least S30V

Well I hope that doesn't mean the Manix 2 is going to become extinct as well. If everything is going to (at Least) S30V then that actually makes me happy to think of the standard production Manix 2 with S30V. But I still think 154CM is a **** of a steel. Maybe a bit past it's prime with all the newer super steels around these days. But 154CM can def hold it's own.

Blerv · #24

It's a great steel and one of the SS picks for custom makers. Since its more or less in vg10's league for everything I would be fine if more knives came that way.

The biggest thing is ht and geometry. Spyderco gets these right. My Meerkat was SE AUS8 and it rocked.

It's a matter of being gracious but pushing for new and interesting materials. Spyderco seems to follow the same path. Considering they were doing ZDP-189 in folders almost a decade ago, it sets the bar high.

Note: Wolverine - Talk is the standard Manix2 is going to s30v with a very similar price. It will be interesting if most can tell much a difference.

DeathBySnooSnoo · #25

Wolverine666 wrote:I will always like and respect 154CM. Most of my knives that I bought early in my knife collecting years had it. And it has always impressed me. And now it's so affordable as well. What's the closest steel to 154CM ? VG-10 ?

Yeah VG-10 and 154CM are really close. I like 154CM a bit better...

PARATOM · #26

I'm trying to expand my steel knowledge. I just bough the 154cm Manix 2 and am excited to get something a little different.

I really need to get a sharpmaker and really get the most out of these blades to understand hands on

It seems like 154cm is a pretty good steel from the responses here

Wolverine666 · #27

Blerv wrote:It's a great steel and one of the SS picks for custom makers. Since its more or less in vg10's league for everything I would be fine if more knives came that way.

The biggest thing is ht and geometry. Spyderco gets these right. My Meerkat was SE AUS8 and it rocked.

It's a matter of being gracious but pushing for new and interesting materials. Spyderco seems to follow the same path. Considering they were doing ZDP-189 in folders almost a decade ago, it sets the bar high.

Note: Wolverine - Talk is the standard Manix2 is going to s30v with a very similar price. It will be interesting if most can tell much a difference.

Blerv , The standard Manix 2 is going to S30V ? When is this going to happen ? Very interesting.

Blerv · #28

Wolverine666 wrote:Blerv , The standard Manix 2 is going to S30V ? When is this going to happen ? Very interesting.

I think it's a rolling change so not sure. Eric mentioned it on the forums. They are trying to keep pricing the same.

Chances are it will still be hollow ground but still a nice treat :) .

PARATOM · #29

Blerv wrote:I think it's a rolling change so not sure. Eric mentioned it on the forums. They are trying to keep pricing the same.

Chances are it will still be hollow ground but still a nice treat :) .

If they could keep it at the same price point, that would be really nice...

Wolverine666 · #30

Well i will def be getting an S30V Manix 2 if it ever comes to fruition. Until then , my 154CM Manix 2 is fitting the bill nicely. Here's one : Would you rather have a Manix 2 hollow ground with S30V or a Manix 2 FFG with 154CM ? The grind really evens up the playing field in my opinion.

I would choose the FFG 154CM.
But in a perfect world I would want a Manix 2 with FFG M390 , forest green G10 and skeletonized stainless liners.
Drool :)

DeathBySnooSnoo · #31

I'd prefer it as it is now. 154CM and HG. And generally I would take HG especially a high HG over FFG any day.

Wolverine666 · #32

DeathBySnooSnoo wrote:I'd prefer it as it is now. 154CM and HG. And generally I would take HG especially a high HG over FFG any day.

Why do you prefer hollow ground ? I don't mind hollow ground but I'm a ffg guy all the way.

DeathBySnooSnoo · #33

Well I prefer a High Hollow Grind, like the GB has. Makes it a far better slicer than FFG because it is thinner behind the edge, but still plenty strong.
My GB outslices my Para2 by a lot...

Wolverine666 · #34

The HG blades do get incredibly sharp. I think I like the look of the FFG blades. 154CM is made by Crucible , isn't it ?