Whats worth more?

[gbelleh]

You're right. I don't buy and sell as much as you. I don't have every edge type of every variant of every model sealed up in neat plastic bags. :) And I don't buy to sell for profit.

My point is, we're not talking thousands of dollars difference in selling price. And it really isn't that big of an issue to the non-hardcore collector types.

[spyderdog]

I think that most of the people do not care if knife has cc number or not. In the past quite a few times I saw on e-bay CC knives with random number were catching more $$ than regular. For me personally it doesn't matter, except safe queens- small knives (Kopas, Micro-Dyads), which I prefer without CC# on the blade.

Agree. MANY times with numbered and non numbered knives recently on ebay, numbered knives have gone for more.

I couldn't really care less though.

[Spyharpy]

I think it's down to personal preference and how much you value the CC# on the knife. When I started the Spyderco addiction, I accumulated the bulk of my collection years ago from a dealer who had a lot of old new stock. Nearly all of the knives were numbered as the dealer belonged to the Collector Club and owned four numbers. I bought the knives without hesitation as they were hard to come by and them being numbered didn't make a difference to me. At one point I was seeking out the numbered knives because they were rare and usually fetched a premium.

The turning point for me was when I wanted to take more knives from the collection and turn them into users. I had some rarer models that were only numbered and didn't want to make them users. They were fetching more than non-numbered ones so they'd stay safe queens. But then I realized the numbers were not "1 of xxxx" but one that belonged to collector enrolled in the club. To me it made the knife personalized, like buying a car with mods on it. I prefer bone stock so that's when I realized I didn't want someone else's number on my knife. I've been slowly selling off my numbered knives and replacing them with standard production versions. As a result, the number of knives in my EDC rotation has grown significantly. Yeah, it's just a number and shouldn't make a difference but I simply don't want any personalized numbers on my Spydercos.

[RIOT]

i frequent ebay Spydies ALOT & sold some Spydies there.

i think the collector numbered ones go for more in my honest opinion, sometimes not that much but usually 10-15% more than the regulars if the seller lists it selling the CC part.

[The Deacon]

I'll admit, I haven't been following Spyderco auction prices on eBay anywhere near as closely this year as I did for six and a half years prior to that. In all that time, however, I can honestly say I never discerned a pattern to the relative prices of numbered and non-numbered knives. A few fetched silly money, a few went for cheap, and most went for within a few bucks, plus or minus, whatever the average auction price at the time was. I seriously doubt that has changed this year.

[SteelDragon]

Like I mentioned I have several with numbers and several without, makes no difference to me really. I do prefer them without numbers if it's part of my hoarding collection :) The main reason I say that is because I have had others ask what the number is for and I get tired of trying to explain the collector club. I honestly don't understand why a limited edition run wouldn't all be numbered in the first place to help verify authenticity and the number produced. Obviously the engraving equipment is available and these are expensive knives. I am probably alone on this, usually am

[jujigatame]

I honestly don't understand why a limited edition run wouldn't all be numbered in the first place to help verify authenticity and the number produced. Obviously the engraving equipment is available and these are expensive knives. I am probably alone on this, usually am

I think in those cases you get into the issue that some have already mentioned - perhaps too much writing on the blade depending on how it was done. I agree that such info would be helpful for accounting purposes, so to speak, among the ELUs but it would also butt heads with those who prefer more clean real estate on the blade.

It's also been brought up before that collector club members were not getting their knives in as prompt a manner as might be expected and part of it came down to a backlog of work for the engraving folks at Spyderco. If there were more knives to be engraved - 300 of this run, 600 of that run, so on and so on - it could create delays in getting those knives to market and that is something a lot of customers could get antsy about.

[jabba359]

The value of the collectors club numbered knives is a question that gets asked a lot, and you will get many different answers depending on what people like and dislike. A particular somebody will tell you that it's absolutely, positively, without a doubt a bad thing that lowers value and will never, under any circumstance, add value.

But the truth of the matter is that some people like the "exclusive" nature of the numbered knives and will pay more. I've seen a few auctions on eBay for collector's numbered knives sell for much higher amounts than concurrent auctions for the same knife without the number. Of course I've also seen the opposite happen as well, as others out there dislike the numbers.

Personally, I like mine without the numbers, as I think they look cluttered with both the spyder and the number. I don't buy or sell on a mass scale, if that makes any difference. If I were faced with the proposition of getting a CC# knife or missing out completely, I'd take the numbered one.

jess bought one to sell? :rolleyes:
mind me asking how much you paid?

I know you don't care much for Jess, but you do realize that the one he sold was numbered, right? That means that he didn't buy it specifically to sell, but that he had to take it because he is a variant collectors club member.

[Kohbanang]

For me it doesn`t matter witch one.in past i get a para2 with Nr.199 to a price like same as you can buy it now,and for me its much important how the knife works.I juse all my Spydies but i cannot say that i love the Nr Version more,but i have them i think just about 3 month~. :-) And now many are waiting for

[SteelDragon]

I think in those cases you get into the issue that some have already mentioned - perhaps too much writing on the blade depending on how it was done. I agree that such info would be helpful for accounting purposes, so to speak, among the ELUs but it would also butt heads with those who prefer more clean real estate on the blade.

It's also been brought up before that collector club members were not getting their knives in as prompt a manner as might be expected and part of it came down to a backlog of work for the engraving folks at Spyderco. If there were more knives to be engraved - 300 of this run, 600 of that run, so on and so on - it could create delays in getting those knives to market and that is something a lot of customers could get antsy about.

I didn't realize the engraving was causing delays on the collector club members knives, aren't they the first to ship? So does a limited edition of 500 include the 60 or 70 cc knives, I assume it does. It just seems there are so many fakes and back door knives on the market these days that for the money it would be nice if you were a collector to know that your blade was indeed one of the 500 and not 500 plus a few here and there.

[The Deacon]

I didn't realize the engraving was causing delays on the collector club members knives, aren't they the first to ship? So does a limited edition of 500 include the 60 or 70 cc knives, I assume it does. It just seems there are so many fakes and back door knives on the market these days that for the money it would be nice if you were a collector to know that your blade was indeed one of the 500 and not 500 plus a few here and there.

I'd expect the number specified is a target, determined before the knives are built, not an exact head count of shippable finished product, and even then is approximate. If everything goes perfectly, raw material yield is maximal, none are damaged in assembly, and all the finished knives pass QC with flying colors, there will be more knives than announced. If Murphy is having a bad day, it may be smaller.

[O,just,O]

I don't know what is worth more, but I have CC # 069. C44 Dyad. Cool I think, 0 is the Spydie hole & 69 is the way the blades fold together.
Completes the yin yang thing going on there.
044 would be good, as would 055 (ATS - 55 STEEL)
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