Which knife for a cruise?

[Cuccos19]

At least a 4" folder.
Never know what you will run into.

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[christopher]

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned it, but a small Bird would seem an excellent choice to me. From the Cara Cara down the Robin, there is a small series of knives, but nothing you'd miss a lot.

Does anyone else have an opinion to offer on this strategy?

Chris :) :) :)

[MCM]

The real problem on a Cruise ship it going into port, spending the day looking around then getting back on the ship with your knife. That's where it gets sticky. Getting back on the boat through the metal detectors.
They look at you cross eyed for some reason & ask a lot of questions.

Just grab a steak knife from the formal dinner. Done..... LOL LOL :D

[Cuccos19]

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned it, but a small Bird would seem an excellent choice to me. From the Cara Cara down the Robin, there is a small series of knives, but nothing you'd miss a lot.

Does anyone else have an opinion to offer on this strategy?

Chris :) :) :)

...Smaller Byrds can be good, too. Unfortunatelly you don't have really big choice, Medowlark, Robin, Finch, Wings, Medowlark Rescue. The Cara Cara, Flight, Catbyrd are too bigs...

I told it... :p Just read carefully everything!

The Robin would be the right choice between public friendly size vs useable size. If we look the practical side, I would choose the G10 handled version. But if look the "innocent-looking" side, I would go for the SS handled one. And I would put some "fake/lying" engraving on the handle, for example "For your 30th birthday. Love, Mom" LOL :D And smile with your most innocent face on the guard, and MAYBE he wouldn't confiscate it!

[Cuccos19]

The real problem on a Cruise ship it going into port, spending the day looking around then getting back on the ship with your knife. That's where it gets sticky. Getting back on the boat through the metal detectors.
They look at you cross eyed for some reason & ask a lot of questions.

Just grab a steak knife from the formal dinner. Done..... LOL LOL :D

What do you think, is it possible that I can "smuggle" my small :spyder: (for example Salt 1) in some of these?? They are so stylish, and have some metal on them. The metal detector will alarm for the brass decoration anyway, so maybe the :spyder: can pass through. Or will the guards check it out manually? And than I have to answer with my most innocent smile... :p

[PaloArt]

And what about some knife from byrd line??? They are cheap and really good for the price ... If loosing it - not tragic (for me it´s always sad to loose knife even super low priced opinel...). I can recomend flight, meadowlark or robin...

Pavel

[kbuzbee]

The real problem on a Cruise ship it going into port, spending the day looking around then getting back on the ship with your knife. That's where it gets sticky. Getting back on the boat through the metal detectors.

Of course you are right on the money here. My criteria are

1. meets their requirements
2. looks NKP friendly
3. not TOO dear
4. functional

I think the orange UKPK meets all these requirements.

What do you think, is it possible that I can "smuggle" my small :spyder: (for example Salt 1) in some of these??

In a word, No. The camera bag would go through the xray scanner and your salt will be seen (and likely inspected). Count on it. Now, would they let in through? Yeah, I think probably so.

BTW, we have the medium size bag in that line and it's TERRIFIC. Best camera bag I've ever owned. It holds our dSLR and both lenses, chips etc... And, yes, I plan on putting the UKPK in there... Maybe it will go unnoticed but even if not, I hope it will be "okay".

Ken

[Cuccos19]

And what about some knife from byrd line??? They are cheap and really good for the price ... If loosing it - not tragic (for me it´s always sad to loose knife even super low priced opinel...). I can recomend flight, meadowlark or robin...

Pavel

Hi Jester!

I don't think so that the Byrd BY05 Flight - if you mean that on "flight" - is good for recommending. Just have a look at it. Although not sharpened, but aggressive looking swedge, and it looks aggressive all around. And it can be considerd for a big knife. The BY03 Cara Cara, and BY18 Catbyrd too. Okay, for me these are only medium sized folders as well the Endura. The Cold Steel 6 inch Voyager, Vaquero and Ti-Lite, those are BIG! :D

[Cuccos19]

Of course you are right on the money here. My criteria are

1. meets their requirements
2. looks NKP friendly
3. not TOO dear
4. functional

I think the orange UKPK meets all these requirements.



In a word, No. The camera bag would go through the xray scanner and your salt will be seen (and likely inspected). Count on it. Now, would they let in through? Yeah, I think probably so.

BTW, we have the medium size bag in that line and it's TERRIFIC. Best camera bag I've ever owned. It holds our dSLR and both lenses, chips etc... And, yes, I plan on putting the UKPK in there... Maybe it will go unnoticed but even if not, I hope it will be "okay".

Ken

Hi kbuzbee!

So you think that a Salt 1 or a Saver Salt could be taken to the ship "legaly" - I mean with the permission of the guard if I smile "innocently"?

Anyway I don't really understand your choice. Why do you hold by the UK PK?? I always would scared about my fingers.... (Has no lock, aargh! That's hurt!) If you are going to have a vacation near water, rather salt water, why don't you choose some smaller Salt with yellow handle, for example. Cheaper and IMHO usable than the UK PK, especially on summer holidays.

I think the Saver Salt could save life, too, for example if you are accidently mixing up in some fishing line or net or something else like these. Once a diver told me that their knife has blunt tip because to save themself in situation like this. They don't need spiky tip, they won't fight with sharks. Because a lot of laic people think that divers have knife against sharks and moray eels. Maybe, in 1case of 1000 you can use your knife against some smaller "fish", but it is not a daily routine. You can also use a chair or an umbrella for self defense, but these are also not every day practice.

And yeah, these NG bags are so stylish! I think the matterial - linen or something like that - so natural, something from those old ages. Not like these synthetic matterials as usual nowadays. What little bit hurts, is the price. But if I want something really unique, I have to pay nearly twice in price. That was a typical thread question here on the :spyder: forum, why is the Mariner Salt cost nearly twice as other Salts. That's why. Unique, oldschool. And that is just right.

[kbuzbee]

So you think that a Salt 1 or a Saver Salt could be taken to the ship "legaly" - I mean with the permission of the guard if I smile "innocently"?

I would think so. NCL's official position (as far as I can determine) is 4". But I know folks who've had trouble with almost all forms so your mileage may vary.

Anyway I don't really understand your choice. Why do you hold by the UK PK?? I always would scared about my fingers.... (Has no lock, aargh! That's hurt!)

I don't have any issues with the UKPK closing. It is pretty stiff. I really love them, in fact. Been carrying nothing but the FG drop point since it arrived. I always thought I needed a lock. Now I know, I don't....

No disrespect to the Salts, of course. And for longer sea exposure than a week, it's a natural fit. But I don't think salt water corrosion will be an issue for so short a time.

I find the orange even more "friendly" than the yellow (maybe?) and the overall design just says "tool not weapon" to me.

Besides, the only small salt I own is the Tasman, which does look a touch aggressive....

That's all.... make sense?

Ken

[Fred Sanford]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say a Salt I in PE (Yellow).

I've never been on a cruise so I don't know how strict they are when it comes to knives. I would say as long as it's in your checked luggage you should be fine.

Put a Zip Tie through the hole and around the knife and tighen it so that the knife cannot be opened. Next, put a cable lock through the hole and then around the steel frame in your luggage. You may have to cut a small hole in your luggage to do this but it's worth it. Also, put it in a zip lock bag and label the bag with a sharpie "crime scene evidence". They will leave it alone. Trust me.

What do you think, is it possible that I can "smuggle" my small :spyder: (for example Salt 1) in some of these?? T.....

Absolutely it is very possible!!!

[Pneumothorax]

my "other" vote would be for Ladybug Salt. Very small and discreet and no issues of salt water rust when on shore. Normally, Id vote for as big as possible and like the UKPK, but I would be worried all the time about varying degrees of scrutiny by different personnel. Its hard for anyone to argue with you about a small knife. Would have voted for Dragonfly if it were H1.

[kbuzbee]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say a Salt I in PE (Yellow).

I might consider it IF I already owned one.... I DO own the OUKPK....

I've never been on a cruise so I don't know how strict they are when it comes to knives. I would say as long as it's in your checked luggage you should be fine.

See, getting it on the boat initially isn't the issue. Getting it off the boat isn't the issue. As stated above, it's the reboarding at ports of call.... YOU walk through a metal detector and EVERYTHING else is Xrayed.... Every time! They used to do it to keep you from bringing your own booze on board. That's still true but they've gotten much tougher on everything else as well.

By the way, once you recover from the ticket thing, you should go. Cruises are the BEST. You check into a good hotel and it takes you places to see stuff. You unpack once, you pack once, and you see LOTS. We've done a couple. We'll do more.

Put a Zip Tie through the hole and around the knife and tighen it so that the knife cannot be opened. Next, put a cable lock through the hole and then around the steel frame in your luggage. You may have to cut a small hole in your luggage to do this but it's worth it. Also, put it in a zip lock bag and label the bag with a sharpie "crime scene evidence". They will leave it alone. Trust me.

Good advice for the flight.

Absolutely it is very possible!!!

Not really, David. It MIGHT happen but I gotta say, I would NOT hang my hat on it.... Better to carry something they are not "supposed" to care about. Even then you're 50/50%.... I may just bag it all together... Or maybe just take my orange Lady Bug.

You know, honestly, a steak knife COULD work. Bring the Sharpmaker. Take one, sharpen it, put it in a pocket sheath and leave it ashore each day... Hmmmm....

Ken

[MCM]

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[Cuccos19]

I might consider it IF I already owned one.... I DO own the OUKPK....

You know, honestly, a steak knife COULD work. Bring the Sharpmaker. Take one, sharpen it, put it in a pocket sheath and leave it ashore each day... Hmmmm....

Ken

If you already have th OUKPK and you trust in it, it is very okay. I don't have any small knife which is expendable. I only have uncontinued small knives and bigger folders and fixblades. So I have to buy one. Orange UKPK vs yellow Salt 1 - if we only considering the price, the Salt 1 is the winner. The other qualities (blade steel - which steel is better and where, FRN vs G10) are secondary aims in that case. I also have to buy stuffs for cruising what are more important - unfortunatelly - than a knife.

Taking a steak knife is a really smart idea. You will have something very expendable!

[Cuccos19]

Unfortunatelly for me, the Salt 1 and Saver Salt aren't available here in Hungary for a good price. But the Pacific Salt with yellow handle and serrated blade is available. And I can get the orange Rescue 79mm. Do you think, that the Pacific Salt SE yellow handle would be confiscated? Is it too big for cruising? And could it look frightening with SE blade? The Rescue doesn't have the H-1 steel, and its bladeshape - so I don't know would be good for EDC? I really don't know. Any ideas? Thax!

[kbuzbee]

I think the Pac Salt would be a perfect tool for working on a boat. For a cruise ship, I'd likely choose PE over SE but that's just my pref.

As to confiscation, while it probably meets the letter of their regs it's pushing them a bit.

If you're going to be working there, don't you have an employee manager you can check with?? Crew rules may be very different than passenger rules... (maybe more lenient, maybe less....)

Ken

[elduderino04]

Hey Kbuzbee,
It seems like you may have already made up your mind, but I wanted to add my opinion that the UKPK is the best bet for a cruise, given that it was pretty much designed from the ground up for appeal to NKP.

While something from the Salt series might be a better choice for extended time in the water, the fact that you already own a UKPK, the fact that its easily and cheaply replaced if you lose it, and that its MUCH more innocuous looking than a Tasman, gives it the edge for a cruise, as far as I'm concerned.

[kbuzbee]

Thanks. I'm about 90% at this point. The other 10% says 'just take a Ladybug and forget about it...' I may not actually know 'til we walk out the door.

Appreciate the input, though.

Ken

[Pete1977]

I went on a cruise in January with Norweigan to the Carribean. I brought a cheap serrated Merlin knockoff and a Gerber Paraframe. I had no problem getting onto the ship with either in my checked luggage. I also brought a Gerber folding box cutter that I used as a money clip. I carried the Merlin knockoff and the box cutter at all times on the ship. I didn't take any knives off the ship. I did not want to press my luck with either the Nepalese Security on the vessel trying to reboard with a knife (signs were clearly posted at all gangways re: taking a knife onto or off of the ship) or the local law enforcement bringing a knife onto their island. The only time I felt I needed a knife on shore was in Barbados and the Dominican Republic. On both islands police were visible and heavily armed (sidearms, sawn off shotguns.)

I don't see having a knife in Hawaii being a problem but embarking and disembarking the ship you will go through a metal detector and put your bags into an x-ray machine.

Call the cruise line and ask. I doubt you will face criminal charges if you are caught but you can lose your knife and they can deny you passage on the ship. Hawaii is nice but the flight back to Ohio is probably not cheap.