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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:16 pm
by zenheretic
The Deacon wrote:Zen, I've resigned myself to the reality that if I want damascus and a round hole on the same knife, I have to find someone willing and able to legally make one for me. The one Boker put out really hurt, darn thing had to be a RH liner lock. Have a LH One-Eye-Jack on order from A. T. Barr, in Devin Thomas raindrop stainless damascus, that will go into my pocket the day it arrives. Still would like to find someone able to heavily customize a Stretch for me - Damasteel blade, dent-free lockbar, bolster & scales handles, and the original lockspring an backspacer.
I don't know Deac., this thread is carrying more interest than me and you talking back and forth like last year. I'm digging my heals in, maybe drink some raw eggs, punch some frozen cow shanks, do a bit of shadowboxing while I run...got to not give up hope. :D

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:24 pm
by fellyjr
zenheretic wrote:I don't know Deac., this thread is carrying more interest than me and you talking back and forth like last year. I'm digging my heals in, maybe drink some raw eggs, punch some frozen cow shanks, do a bit of shadowboxing while I run...got to not give up hope. :D
Yo, Adrian! :D :D :D

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:20 pm
by rcbalt2
zenheretic wrote:I don't know Deac., this thread is carrying more interest than me and you talking back and forth like last year. I'm digging my heals in, maybe drink some raw eggs, punch some frozen cow shanks, do a bit of shadowboxing while I run...got to not give up hope. :D
It's Not Over :D :spyder: :spyder:

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:32 pm
by jaislandboy
"a clipless Kopa with polished bolsters and desert ironwood inserts would be a good choice..."

yeah Zen this would be All I need.....u can keep your damasteel.... ;) :rolleyes: :D

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:55 am
by dialex
Jurphaas wrote:Hi Guys - Be prepared for a dissapointment :eek: . I've been pestering Sal for years about Damascus and the only answer I got was "does it cut any better?"
Sal will probably explain to you that Spyderco is all about High Tech preformance in cutting. As long there is no proof in Sal's mind about better performance as the high speed steels we use, there will be no damascus bladed Spyderco. Sal is in no way prepared to settle for "eye candy".

Jurphaas. :)
Hi Jur,
I'd ask Sal if putting apple coral handles makes the knife cut better... :rolleyes:
So I'd say yes, make a Persian (full size) with Damascus blade, Damascus bolsters like at the anniversary Delica (shouldn't be such a tough job, since it's the same Ed that made those too), and stag handles. Dentless lock, of course. Also titanium liners and sculpted (anodized titanium) backspacer.
As for the clip, I'd put a very discrete clip fixed with a screw at the butt of the knife (like there is at certain pens).
No need to clap your hands, throw with money instead. :p

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:25 am
by zenheretic
This whole "Sal only adds materials for performance" is a myth. The Kopa series, to a lesser extent the Kiwi series, that little fancy smancy Delica all point to broader minded Sal.

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:58 am
by The Deacon
Well in fact, Spyderco has already "done" damascus, in the form of the Zowada Worker. If the darn thing was PE, there'd have been one less intact Evo set in the world for a couple years now. :D In a way, that highlights the problem. A knife made with quality damascus will be expensive, no way around that, and for almost all of us, the more money a knife costs, the less willing we are to compromise on "little details" like blade length, lock type, edge type, blade pattern, handle construction and materials, etc.

Using the damsteel Kopa as an example, I'd buy one if it had a clip, just to keep my Kopa collection complete, perhaps even a second to carry as a money clip. But, if it had no clip I'd buy a few, one for the collection, one to carry "stock", and several to have Bill Wirtel and his crew molest for me. :D So, in that regard, I'd be less picky about scale material than some might be.

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:10 am
by jaislandboy
The Deacon wrote:...But, if it had no clip I'd buy a few, one for the collection, one to carry "stock", and several to have Bill Wirtel and his crew molest for me...
Yeah Paul! I'm all about a clipless Kopa....! the clip hides that "other" gorgeous inlay....so like on my Cocobolo Kopa.....the clipside inlay can't get the attention it deserves....i.e. I can't fondle / caress/ flitzwax that clipside inlay (like I do to the clipless side... ;) ) so I feel somewhat cheated! :eek: :p :D

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:37 am
by Big-Target
I can still imagine an FRN damascus Delica/Endura(including WAVE series).

It would be quite the collector's item ;)

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:34 am
by Jenner 515
How about a Damasteel Lava?

I could get my brain around that idea...anybody good enough with Photoshop to tweak a picture of one...what does DAYWALKER think?

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:28 am
by Big-Target
Jenner 515 wrote:How about a Damasteel Lava?

I could get my brain around that idea...anybody good enough with Photoshop to tweak a picture of one...what does DAYWALKER think?
Hmmmmmmmmm!!!!! ;) :rolleyes:

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:00 am
by cobrajoe
Jenner 515 wrote:How about a Damasteel Lava?

I could get my brain around that idea...anybody good enough with Photoshop to tweak a picture of one...what does DAYWALKER think?
Yummy. I think it would be even sweeter with polished bolsters and some nice wood, like ironwood :D

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:03 am
by bh49
I think, Zen's idea about Kopa is the best. Persian is also very good, but I prefer clipless.

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:19 pm
by zenheretic
Heck could even have Kopa with damasteel blade and without the scale to keep costs down. Although I wonder if people would buy an unfinished knife.

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:02 pm
by bh49
zenheretic wrote:Heck could even have Kopa with damasteel blade and without the scale to keep costs down. Although I wonder if people would buy an unfinished knife.
I really prefer your original idea with desert ironwood.

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:22 am
by zenheretic
bh49 wrote:I really prefer your original idea with desert ironwood.
Desert ironwood, with or without the clip, it makes no difference...damasteel or other damascus too. :cool: