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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:03 pm
by oregon
http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh15-e.htm
Or, leave your options open with the Benelli M3. It has a selector to switch from pump to auto.
However, it fails your economy test. Always wanted one of these. Last bargain price I saw was $800 but that was a while ago.
Speaking of home defense, which shotgun came with a bayonet lug and who has a picture with bayonet? Yablanowitz, I know you know, so....
Best,
oregon
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:58 pm
by Havatoo
I'm surprised no one mentioned a double barrel side by side, wih 18-20 inch barrels. Like a Rossi coach gun. Yes, only 2 shots but here are the advantages:
Lighter
Won't jam
Quick follow up shot
Can give both barrels if needed.
Yes, I'm low-tech. I carry revolvers instead of automatics so that'll tell you something. I like my firearms to go bang, guaranteed.
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:17 pm
by zenheretic
oregon wrote:[Speaking of home defense, which shotgun came with a bayonet lug and who has a picture with bayonet? Yablanowitz, I know you know, so....
Best,
oregon
Well the Mossberg 590 came with a bayonet lug....don't know if that is the one you were thinking about.
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:05 pm
by snuffaluff
Havatoo wrote:I'm surprised no one mentioned a double barrel side by side, wih 18-20 inch barrels. Like a Rossi coach gun. Yes, only 2 shots but here are the advantages:
Lighter
Won't jam
Quick follow up shot
Can give both barrels if needed.
Yes, I'm low-tech. I carry revolvers instead of automatics so that'll tell you something. I like my firearms to go bang, guaranteed.
ya know, I've never shot one, so I didn't think about it, but in a self-defense situation, that wouldn't be a bad thing to have. I mean, if you don't hit the offender in two shots(much less one) then you've got some problems! Over-under or side by side would do just fine. Infact, they are making a comeback from what I've heard "around the campfire".
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:43 pm
by Texas guy
I love you guys, thanks for all the great ingo :o
I want absolute reliability, so I will steer away from the Mossberg. I am now looking into the Remingtons and Nova's.
Could somebody explain choke to me?
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:19 pm
by zenheretic
Texas guy wrote:I love you guys, thanks for all the great ingo :o
I want absolute reliability, so I will steer away from the Mossberg. I am now looking into the Remingtons and Nova's.
Could somebody explain choke to me?
Think of it as a narrowing of the barrel just before the shot leaves the business end of the barrel. It chokes down on the shot making it stay closer together for longer. This increases range. A non-choked barrel is pretty worthless beyond about 50 yards. Different chokes for different applications.
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:23 pm
by zenheretic
Texas guy wrote:I love you guys, thanks for all the great ingo :o
I want absolute reliability, so I will steer away from the Mossberg. I am now looking into the Remingtons and Nova's.
Could somebody explain choke to me?
Ah Remington vs. Mossberg is like .45 vs. 9mm.
Here is a great comparitive review. It goes through several choices for each company. Read it carefully.
http://www.tacticalshotgun.ca/content_n ... 0_590.html
edited to add this seems like a good discussion
http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39725
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:46 pm
by Tank
I preferr an over/under double barrel. I got a Bereta Ultralight last year and love it. Its got a 24"barrel kinda short for trap and skeet but its the size I have shot for many year so Im quite used to it. Great field gun and for a 12ga. its very light.. less than 6lbs.
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:33 am
by snuffaluff
Texas guy wrote:I love you guys, thanks for all the great ingo :o
I want absolute reliability, so I will steer away from the Mossberg. I am now looking into the Remingtons and Nova's.
Could somebody explain choke to me?
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4058925.html
if you scroll down under the ads, read the Description section.