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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:17 pm
by dete
peacefuljeffrey wrote:Really, you can just imagine what it feels like to open or close the big blade on a good Victorinox Swiss Army Knife.
Am I right, people?
-Jeffrey
Ah now I get it. Thanx for the helpful visualization.
Love the UKPK!
Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:51 pm
by JspyEDC
I have included my new UKPK as my left, back pocket EDC since it arrived. Simple, minimalistic as yoiu say, and to me, the perfect knife (right up there with the Dodo) for many, many situations.
Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:55 pm
by Simon G
peacefuljeffrey wrote: It's one thing associated with Britain that I really like! (In general, I used to be an Anglophile until they turned full-on rabidly anti-gun, anti-knife, and anti-self-defense.)
I got 17 guns, 80 Spydies and I dare anyone to test the third!
The UKPK was borne out of necessity. I'm led to believe that locking folders are being more restricted throughout the world for EDC, so it may prove it's worth else where. Am I not right in thinking that several jurisdictions in the US now have a locking folder "ban" in force...................?
Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 6:16 pm
by redhawk44p
I really like my UKPK but I need a lock to protect me from myself. The new Caly 3 will be a dream EDC for sure.
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:27 am
by peacefuljeffrey
Simon G wrote:I got 17 guns, 80 Spydies and I dare anyone to test the third!
Is that an attempt to dispel the notion that the U.K. has made it all-but-impossible to own firearms??
What kind of guns do you have, then?
The UKPK was borne out of necessity. I'm led to believe that locking folders are being more restricted throughout the world for EDC, so it may prove it's worth else where. Am I not right in thinking that several jurisdictions in the US now have a locking folder "ban" in force...................?
Can anyone offer any LOGIC behind the supposed need for banning locking folders? Does that somehow make people safe from knife-violence?? :rolleyes:
I don't know first-hand if "several jurisdictions in the U.S. now have a locking folder 'ban' in force" or not. I imagine that you might find such nonsense idiocy in Chicago, NYC, D.C., and Boston -- you know, the places that continue to have the highest crime in the country despite banning this and banning that. They are not the norm, by any means.
-Jeffrey
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:06 am
by JDEE
In Australia to my knowledge no state has a ban of locking blades as such but IMO there is a public conception that equates locking blades with "flick knives" - I have had this often to me when selling at markets. On the other side of the coin we do have one state which outlaws "one hand openers" vis-a-vis Denmark.
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:35 am
by orthogonal1
I was under the impression that Houston TX had such a locking blade ordinance.
Now, onto something of import.
The action of the UKPK - is it as snappy as a laguiole (generally the most positively open slip joint knives I've dealt with)?
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:51 am
by Mr Blonde
the ukpk's action is very snappy, it's almost like it locks-up actually. The entire back spacer is a spring to keep the blade in place.
Wouter
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:47 am
by Simon G
peacefuljeffrey wrote:Is that an attempt to dispel the notion that the U.K. has made it all-but-impossible to own firearms??
What kind of guns do you have, then?
Can anyone offer any LOGIC behind the supposed need for banning locking folders? Does that somehow make people safe from knife-violence?? :rolleyes:
I don't know first-hand if "several jurisdictions in the U.S. now have a locking folder 'ban' in force" or not. I imagine that you might find such nonsense idiocy in Chicago, NYC, D.C., and Boston -- you know, the places that continue to have the highest crime in the country despite banning this and banning that. They are not the norm, by any means.
-Jeffrey
Jeffrey,
It's not all but impossible to own firearms in the UK. However, you do require a licence. Shotguns, you just need to have had no previous criminal convictions, but rifles and muzzle loading pistols require a different licence where you have had to have shown good reason. Hunting, vermin control or target shooting.
Me? I have 12ga O/U's and SxS. A semi 12ga. A couple of lever guns in .357 and .44. A Sharps Long range and .50 front stuffer. A couple of semi and slide rimfire a couple of .308's and a .223 AR. Oh and four M/L revolvers.......
You are right, taking the locking mechanism from a folder does nothing to reduce knife violence and to think it would deter anyone bent on such action is pure folly.
Mistakenly or not, I get from the tone of your post, that you don't think it "can't happen to you"! The way these prostitute politicians and tabloid media get their way is through a "drip, drip" course of action. Yes, it may only be certain locales at present, in the US and Elsewhere in the world, with knife and gun laws out of step with everywhere else but the cancer will spread if not checked. RKBA will save the day? Until a deteremined challenge in this alledgedly more enlightened times! It has only taken 50 years for the UK constitution to be ignored by judiciary, politicians, media and the people! The British Bill of Rights (1689) included RKBA and the British Constitution has guaranteed that right since 1215. (Where do you think the Founding Fathers took the idea from?) In 1956 the government of the day, Labour, launched the attack. Self Defence, although a right in British law, does not include the prepartation of weapons for that defence!!!!!!
Not an example, it should be seen as a warning, especially as on both sides of the Atlantic, laws that restrict us are being rail roaded through in the name of "fighting terrorism" and any objection to these laws are seen as "un-patriotic". Be ever vigilant.
Simon.
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:01 am
by sal
Hi Jeffrey,
The logic behind all of the "banning" laws is "fear". And you really can't fault someone from being afraid.
Yes it is naive to think that "making a law against something" makes it go away, but that is the belief, from law abiding citizens.
sal