ZPD Yojimbo?

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Come on Spyderco! You know that most of us would buy two (at least) One to play with and one to put away!! :D :D :D

This would make for a great Sprint Run knife - if only to test the waters ;) :spyder: :)
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What handle???

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OH Did I mention that a PURPLE handle would be appropriate for this knife? Well it would :cool: :spyder: Also a black boron carbide coated blade would look >> OH SO COOL!!>>

Also maybe even consider a special run of the Ronin with ZDP-189 being it is already made in Japan anyway. This is do-able ;) :spyder:
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zenheretic wrote:Scott, I'm not so sure it would. Take the ocelot for example. The scales are made here and shipped to Japan for assembly, and of course returned for sale. According to Sal, the extra cost is only in the manufacture of the scales not in the shipping of the scales overseas for assembly. So using reverse logic, shipping the blades over here for assembly shouldn't inflate costs much. Come on Deacon prove me wrong! :p

source: http://spyderco.com/forums/showthread.p ... post195928
Good point. I retract my previous post.

BRING ON THE ZDP-189 YOJIMBO!
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Yojimbo ZDP! Yojimbo ZDP!! Yojimbo ZDP!!!

Lets get this rolling! It would be a great line extension for this model. The engineering/machinery is there - it would be additional sales for existing technology/investment.

Incremental revenue flow - much of which would go directly to the bottom line!

And above all else .......... It would ~~ delight the customer ~~ :D :spyder: :D
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Oh Gawd! a Yojimbo ZDP! That would be a must have for the Old Hapkidoin. A laser blade on steroids, for sure!!!

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If they make it, I'll buy one.

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TurnerIII wrote:Yojimbo ZDP! Yojimbo ZDP!! Yojimbo ZDP!!!

Lets get this rolling! It would be a great line extension for this model. The engineering/machinery is there - it would be additional sales for existing technology/investment.

Incremental revenue flow - much of which would go directly to the bottom line!

And above all else .......... It would ~~ delight the customer ~~ :D :spyder: :D
Yojimbo ZPD!!! Yojimbo ZPD!!! Yojimbo ZPD!!! now someones bound to make it... :D
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[quote="JD Spydo"]OH Did I mention that a PURPLE handle would be appropriate for this knife? Well it would :cool: :spyder: Also a black boron carbide coated blade would look >> OH SO COOL!!>>

Also maybe even consider a special run of the Ronin with ZDP-189 being it is already made in Japan anyway. This is do-able ]
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NO I am getting even with you for wanting to kill the Hawkbill thread :D :rolleyes: :D :spyder: . Actually I would crave a couple of them myself ;) :spyder:
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This would be such a great knife to come in ZDP!!! How to improve on greatness.....Add ZDP-189!!!
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[quote="JD Spydo"]NO I am getting even with you for wanting to kill the Hawkbill thread :D :rolleyes: :D :spyder: . Actually I would crave a couple of them myself ]
Oh that little thing? ;)
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Not that I'm bumping this thread or anything but... bump
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Now that wold be a scary knife,I wouldn't want to stand next to a guy with that in his hand.I would be up for one of those(and for that matter a couple of those).
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Dear Friends,

I too would welcome a Yojimbo in ZDP-189. After recently trying a Burgundy Caly Jr. for the first time I am very much a believer in this steel for some applications, and I believe this to be one of them it is well-suited to. The Yo has become an EDC for me of late.

Colored G-10 scales would make it even more sheeple-friendly/box-cutter-like. I love the idea!

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But what colour G-10 I suggested dark green and JD suggested purple. In fact how about... textured CF like the military :p Also would it be laminated zpd or solid (my vote... laminated). Black blade? I'd certainly like a black clip with a gold bug a la calypso.
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I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade here, but I'm having trouble with the idea of this project. Especially now.

The Yojimbo isn't selling well, hence the lack of a trainer.

The Yojimbo also comes in two G10 colors. So you guys are talking about a third variation of a knife that isn't selling well.

Spyderco also has the Lum Chinese and Delica ZDP projects in the works. Also, given what little we know about ZDP and how difficult it seems to be to get any information. Maybe we should relax with ZDP for now.

Spyderco makes the Yojimbo in the USA. Even if the blade was just made in Japan that's still work hours taken away from American workers. Not to mention money taken away from Crucible steel

Is the Yojimbo really a utility knife? I've carried one and used it as a utility knife, but there are better knives for that in mind. Does it really benefit that much from more edge retention?

Why the ZDP steel? If this is a self defense knife, what's wrong with S30V. ZDP isn't really going to make the knife any sharper.

I'm also concerned about what the price on something like this is going to look like.


I think that if you guys want to push for something, push for a Yojimbo trainer.

Or push for more information on the BG42 Lil Temp sprint.

Or the tanker hawkbill

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My Dear Bryan,
VultureParade wrote:The Yojimbo isn't selling well, hence the lack of a trainer.
On what do you base this assumption? I have the 2006 catalog in-hand and there will definitely be Yojimbo trainers forthcoming.
VultureParade wrote:The Yojimbo also comes in two G10 colors. So you guys are talking about a third variation of a knife that isn't selling well.
Please see above... :D
VultureParade wrote:Spyderco also has the Lum Chinese and Delica ZDP projects in the works. Also, given what little we know about ZDP and how difficult it seems to be to get any information. Maybe we should relax with ZDP for now.
I understand your concerns, but please consider that part of what this forum is for is use as a barometer of sorts of what the knife-buying community wants. Such knives may never happen, but I hardly think it hurts to ask.
VultureParade wrote:Spyderco makes the Yojimbo in the USA. Even if the blade was just made in Japan that's still work hours taken away from American workers. Not to mention money taken away from Crucible steel.
I again see your concerns as I also prefer to buy American when possible. As the ZDP version would doubtless be only a Sprint Run, I do not see any long-term damage to Crucible Steel as a result.
VultureParade wrote:Is the Yojimbo really a utility knife? I've carried one and used it as a utility knife, but there are better knives for that in mind.
Yes, though I prefer not to use EDC knives for SD purposes lest the blade be dull when I REALLY need it the most, and I agree that the Yojimbo might not be THE best choice as a utility knife. Still, if the demand is there...
VultureParade wrote:Does it really benefit that much from more edge retention?
In short, yes.

Please understand - I am not a steel junkie at all. I prefer VG-10 to most steels, and 440C is much better than most want to admit. However, after trying ZDP-189 for a while now I do genuinely see the attraction.
VultureParade wrote:Why the ZDP steel? If this is a self defense knife, what's wrong with S30V? ZDP isn't really going to make the knife any sharper.
Nothing is wrong wth S30V, or VG-10, or 440C for that matter. I suppose it all comes down to personal preferences: what characteristics you personally want from the steel in your knives.
VultureParade wrote:I'm also concerned about what the price on something like this is going to look like.
You have me there. :D
VultureParade wrote:I think that if you guys want to push for something, push for a Yojimbo trainer.
Done. Next knife to push for?
VultureParade wrote:Or the tanker hawkbill.
Now we're on the same page, my friend. :D

Seriously, I don't see the harm in asking for a ZDP-189 Sprint Run of Yojimbos. I think the positive characteristics of the steel outweight the increased costs involved, at least in some instances.

I'd still rather see the new Super-Tanker Hawkbill...

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Well put. I realise the likelyhood of it happening is very slim, but I'm allowed to dream :D I though the other day that I should design a spyderco knife (just for fun) then after a while of thinking what features I would/wouldn't like to see I came to the realisation that I simply couldn't come up with anything better than the yojimbo. It's a real shame it isn't selling spectacularly well because to be brutally honest it deserves to. A ZPD version just might drum up a little more interest, just like a trainer. By this I mean it would stop being just another odd-looking spyderco and become a classic like the gunting. If people see there are 4 versions of it floating about they will think it must have something special and go out on a limb and buy it regardless of its looks. Then when they get it in their hand they will realise it is something special and they will tell their friends and buy a trainer :D This knife deserves to sell by the million.
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if a super steel would be used i would put $ on cpm S125V yo is a golden knife and golden uses mostly cpm stuff
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"Originally Posted by VultureParade
Spyderco makes the Yojimbo in the USA. Even if the blade was just made in Japan that's still work hours taken away from American workers. Not to mention money taken away from Crucible steel."


And green monkeys can jump on cars while washing machines sing.

Same difference. :)


If it was made here I would buy it. But its not - so it comes from Japan and I buy it. I am consumer - here me growl. Make it better or I will go elsewhere because I can -- Better learn this one labor or join the 405 buggy wip local :D

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