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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:35 pm
by The General
That knife rates a 10/10 on my cool list! Will it be available to buy at the IWA show Sal? :)

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:08 pm
by shootist16
I really like the looks of the Spyker. Should be no problem sharpening with a sharpmaker.

Does anyone know what the blade length is?

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:08 pm
by Civilian
KInd of interesting i would like it better if it had just the spyderhole though. I will have to see one in person first, but it looks like a real nice user.

Scale

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:39 pm
by Zeppelin
There's not really anything in there for scale. How big is this new knife?

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:23 am
by DAYWALKER
Aloha ALL!

Ken who? :p

Does this one lock like the Neely Lock? Hmmmmmmm....

God bless :cool:

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:23 am
by Stevie Ray
Beautiful knife. I can't wait .... :spyder:

There have been a couple of longer threads on the Blade Forums debating whether or not there should be an "assisted open" Spydie and ..... what sort of design should be used in the event that Sal does build one.

I am hoping Sal does choose to build at least one AO knife. :D

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:50 am
by mystillwater
shootist16 wrote:I really like the looks of the Spyker. Should be no problem sharpening with a sharpmaker.

Does anyone know what the blade length is?
it's tip down, blade is 3.5", it's 4oz., and carries a $249.95 msrp.

it's s30v. and it's liner lock.

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:35 am
by shootist16
mystillwater wrote:it's tip down, blade is 3.5", it's 4oz., and carries a $249.95 msrp.

it's s30v. and it's liner lock.

Sounds like a winner. That is my ideal size for EDC.

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:35 am
by J D Wijbenga
Sweeeeeeet! That is way cool!

JD

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:32 am
by Spidernoir
3.5 inch blade? ****! Too long for legal carry here.

~Jeff :(

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:34 pm
by chucklehead
wow!
glad to hear its not 440 :D

but the price is $75 t0 $100 to high :eek:

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:29 pm
by skcusloa
what's the point of collaborating if they don't add assisted opening? What exactly is kershaw adding to the knife, besides the name and the design? Spydies have great steel and the hole, kershaw has ken onion and assisted opening. It sounds like spyderco is getting ripped and kershaw is getting the deal of the century.

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:43 pm
by Senate
skcusloa wrote:what's the point of collaborating if they don't add assisted opening? What exactly is kershaw adding to the knife, besides the name and the design? Spydies have great steel and the hole, kershaw has ken onion and assisted opening. It sounds like spyderco is getting ripped and kershaw is getting the deal of the century.
LOL :)

seriously if Kershaw really added the design, I see no problem, that's the way collaborations work. they design, spyderco build.

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:52 pm
by crahen
I rather like it. But, I'd rather see it smaller and less expensive. The blade shape kinda reminds me of a seagull beak!

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:02 pm
by Carlos
skcusloa wrote:what's the point of collaborating if they don't add assisted opening? What exactly is kershaw adding to the knife, besides the name and the design? Spydies have great steel and the hole, kershaw has ken onion and assisted opening. It sounds like spyderco is getting ripped and kershaw is getting the deal of the century.

Some guesses (not insider info):

1. Ken Onion probably has an exclusive contract with Kershaw, which means that Kershaw would have to legally be part of an Onion-designed Spyderco (if true).

2. The 3-hole ornamental pattern in a knife blade is TM of Kershaw. For this knife to have three round holes in its blade requires Kershaw's permission. Notice how the Skirmish went from 3 holes to 4? That is the power of Kershaw's trademark.

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:49 am
by 4 s ter
I wonder why the Skirmish was revised to avoid infringing on Kershaw's trademark but not to avoid Spyderco's trademark :confused:

A Note - the row of decreasing (or increasing) diameter holes is a feature that Ken Onion has used on many of his knives in the past.

David

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:16 am
by mystillwater
$250 is MSRP. i'm certain that it'll be a lot cheaper than that in the real world. probably less tan $200.

as for the design, i held it. it's a great design and it's very well done. i would have liked to see it be assited opening but i guess that's because it was made at spyderco and they lack the design to do it. either way, it's cool have an Onion design made in something other than 440A :-)

Hawkbill?

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:18 am
by Hannibal Lecter
Does anyone have a production pic of the new Byrd Hawkbill knife? I have searched a bit on the web and can't find any mention of it or its MSRP.


Ta,

H

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:05 pm
by mystillwater
just for you hannibal:

Good Question!

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:53 pm
by Sundown
4 s ter wrote:I wonder why the Skirmish was revised to avoid infringing on Kershaw's trademark but not to avoid Spyderco's trademark :confused:

David
That's a darn good question! In my opinion, it definitely shows the state of BM's ethics. I think BM probably feels that, since Mr. Glesser licenses the "Spyderco hole" to custom makers, and BM made a production version of a custom blade (the Skirmish, which I laughingly refer to as "The Ken Onion designed Spyderco Commander" :D ), they're able to skate. They'd probably do the same thing if they (BM) collaborated with Jens Anso on a production version of one of his designs, since he licenses the "Spyderco Hole" on his customs. Even though the Skirmish looks cool and I'd love to own one, I refuse to buy the knife on principle. :spyder:

I've often thought about starting a thread on "The new, ultra-cool, Onion/Spyderco/EKI collaboration", and then attaching a picture of the BM Skirmish, but I figure I'd get flamed to death! :p