Ancestry?

[James Y]

"No! You're Still Not Cherokee! What We've Learned from the First Video!"



I posted the first video here sometime back.

I guess I'm glad I'm NOT Native American Indian, and I would never even dream of claiming to be. Not that being of American Indian descent is a negative thing. But if I were of such an ancestry, I would have been pretty annoyed at how many people are actively trying to hijack my history and identity and claim it for themselves. Especially the claims made by the people in that last example (number 12) that he discusses.

Jim

[James Y]

23andMe Bankruptcy: The Steps You Can Take to Protect Your Genetic Data

I think that some people have considered it paranoia when I and some others have said before that we would NOT get a DNA test, because of various possible/probable reasons. The probability of something like this happening was only one of those reasons. If they weren't already sharing personal data. And if this is happening to 23andMe, it could happen to any one of those companies.



Jim

[James Y]

$5 Indians, Fraud That Changed History



Jim

[Naperville]

An update on the 23 And Me debacle.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/30/23andme ... sting.html

[Naperville]

Important article on DNA. China's Military alegedly is seeking DNA samples to attack entire ethnic groups.

I predicted this all the way back in 2000 when I worked for a biotech in Silicon Valley. It is just a matter of time.


States Move To Protect Americans' DNA From China
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -dna-china

[Naperville]

LI man was switched at birth with baby who had the same last name — and discovered mix-up on ancestry site 60 years later

https://nypost.com/2025/04/06/us-news/l ... e-lawsuit/

[SpeedHoles]

Important article on DNA. China's Military alegedly is seeking DNA samples to attack entire ethnic groups.

I predicted this all the way back in 2000 when I worked for a biotech in Silicon Valley. It is just a matter of time.


States Move To Protect Americans' DNA From China
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -dna-china

An article written by the fictional character from the movie Fight Club?

[James Y]

Hozier's Girlfriend Gets Accused of Being a Culture Vulture



TBH, I've never even heard of Hozier. I just came across this short video. This ranting Native woman has got WAY too much time (and food) on her hands. White sage, or any other plant, is NOT the exclusive property of any one ethnicity. Just like wearing eyeglasses, which were invented in Italy in the late 1200s, is not the sole right of Italians.

BTW, by this Hozier's 'alleged' girlfriend's appearance and last name, she is clearly of Japanese descent (or is at least half-Japanese). Something the 'Native' woman clearly ignores. I've known many people who burn white sage who are not 'Native American Indian', and their lives definitely do not suck.

Jim

[Naperville]

Important article on DNA. China's Military alegedly is seeking DNA samples to attack entire ethnic groups.

I predicted this all the way back in 2000 when I worked for a biotech in Silicon Valley. It is just a matter of time.


States Move To Protect Americans' DNA From China
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -dna-china

An article written by the fictional character from the movie Fight Club?

Ohhhh you mean Zero Hedge author? No those are serious news pieces. The Senior Editor of the Zero Hedge website just uses an alias to represent the staff there. Google says, "Zero Hedge's in-house content is authored by one "Tyler Durden", the pen name of site owner Daniel Ivandjiiski."

I worked for a biotech in Silicon Valley, California, 2000 to around 2003. I also almost married a woman with an MS in Laboratory Sciences from UCSF who holds a Scientist designation now in Silicon Valley, employed to lead teams of other scientists doing genomics research.

We worried about militaries or governments using DNA to target ethic groups all the way down to an individual all the way back in 2000. This isn't science fiction 20 years on, I am sure somebody is looking into it.

The problem with biotech in general is that it is easier to develop or misuse biological weapons than nukes. As knowledge expands, there are going to be problems with bio- and nuclear.

[SpeedHoles]

Important article on DNA. China's Military alegedly is seeking DNA samples to attack entire ethnic groups.

I predicted this all the way back in 2000 when I worked for a biotech in Silicon Valley. It is just a matter of time.


States Move To Protect Americans' DNA From China
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -dna-china

An article written by the fictional character from the movie Fight Club?

Ohhhh you mean Zero Hedge author? No those are serious news pieces. The Senior Editor of the Zero Hedge website just uses an alias to represent the staff there. Google says, "Zero Hedge's in-house content is authored by one "Tyler Durden", the pen name of site owner Daniel Ivandjiiski."

I worked for a biotech in Silicon Valley, California, 2000 to around 2003. I also almost married a woman with an MS in Laboratory Sciences from UCSF who holds a Scientist designation now in Silicon Valley, employed to lead teams of other scientists doing genomics research.

We worried about militaries or governments using DNA to target ethic groups all the way down to an individual all the way back in 2000. This isn't science fiction 20 years on, I am sure somebody is looking into it.

The problem with biotech in general is that it is easier to develop or misuse biological weapons than nukes. As knowledge expands, there are going to be problems with bio- and nuclear.

Oh I completely believe it. Just found the site seemingly fishy, regardless of content...

[Naperville]

Important article on DNA. China's Military alegedly is seeking DNA samples to attack entire ethnic groups.

I predicted this all the way back in 2000 when I worked for a biotech in Silicon Valley. It is just a matter of time.


States Move To Protect Americans' DNA From China
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -dna-china

An article written by the fictional character from the movie Fight Club?

Ohhhh you mean Zero Hedge author? No those are serious news pieces. The Senior Editor of the Zero Hedge website just uses an alias to represent the staff there. Google says, "Zero Hedge's in-house content is authored by one "Tyler Durden", the pen name of site owner Daniel Ivandjiiski."

I worked for a biotech in Silicon Valley, California, 2000 to around 2003. I also almost married a woman with an MS in Laboratory Sciences from UCSF who holds a Scientist designation now in Silicon Valley, employed to lead teams of other scientists doing genomics research.

We worried about militaries or governments using DNA to target ethic groups all the way down to an individual all the way back in 2000. This isn't science fiction 20 years on, I am sure somebody is looking into it.

The problem with biotech in general is that it is easier to develop or misuse biological weapons than nukes. As knowledge expands, there are going to be problems with bio- and nuclear.

Oh I completely believe it. Just found the site seemingly fishy, regardless of content...

Wikipedia says:
In March 2011, Time magazine ranked Zero Hedge as 9th in its 25 Best Financial Blogs.

The news there is generally solid.

[Naperville]

Here’s what potential 23andMe buyers could do with your genetic data

https://dnyuz.com/2025/04/13/heres-what ... etic-data/

[James Y]

Here’s what potential 23andMe buyers could do with your genetic data

https://dnyuz.com/2025/04/13/heres-what ... etic-data/

Thanks for posting that.

I'm glad I've never sent a DNA sample to any of these "ancestry DNA" companies. I think I mentioned before that I wasn't going to because this very thing could happen. And I think that some didn't take it seriously. And look where we are now. If they hadn't already been sharing the genetic information in their database.

I wouldn't trust any of the other companies offering the same types of services, either.

Jim

[Naperville]

Here’s what potential 23andMe buyers could do with your genetic data

https://dnyuz.com/2025/04/13/heres-what ... etic-data/

Thanks for posting that.

I'm glad I've never sent a DNA sample to any of these "ancestry DNA" companies. I think I mentioned before that I wasn't going to because this very thing could happen. And I think that some didn't take it seriously. And look where we are now. If they hadn't already been sharing the genetic information in their database.

I wouldn't trust any of the other companies offering the same types of services, either.

Jim

Just speaking in general terms here:

Not sure where medicine is exactly at, but I think if you get cancer the top 5 hospitals in the USA can take your DNA and create a more targeted solution for you, it is a personalized care. That would be a situation that I would offer up my DNA, and not much else. I'd do it to save my life.

If it is ancestry related information you are looking for and you are not adopted, then just go to Ancestry.com and take a look at their offerings which are quite extensive. I know all of my grandparents, parents, aunts, uncles, and cousins born in the USA. I do NOT know most of my cousins children, or family in Austria or Ireland.

It's fine if people feel they have a need to connect with people. If it makes them happy, go for it. I had my fill of Summer cookouts with everyone, 100+ people showing up and the mayhem that ensued. Sure, I'd like to see some of my cousins now that we are all grown up, but do I really need to meet 1,000 people that I have no connection to? I don't get what is so great about meeting people you do not know and have no true connection with.

[James Y]

Here’s what potential 23andMe buyers could do with your genetic data

https://dnyuz.com/2025/04/13/heres-what ... etic-data/

Thanks for posting that.

I'm glad I've never sent a DNA sample to any of these "ancestry DNA" companies. I think I mentioned before that I wasn't going to because this very thing could happen. And I think that some didn't take it seriously. And look where we are now. If they hadn't already been sharing the genetic information in their database.

I wouldn't trust any of the other companies offering the same types of services, either.

Jim

Just speaking in general terms here:

Not sure where medicine is exactly at, but I think if you get cancer the top 5 hospitals in the USA can take your DNA and create a more targeted solution for you, it is a personalized care. That would be a situation that I would offer up my DNA, and not much else. I'd do it to save my life.

If it is ancestry related information you are looking for and you are not adopted, then just go to Ancestry.com and take a look at their offerings which are quite extensive. I know all of my grandparents, parents, aunts, uncles, and cousins born in the USA. I do NOT know most of my cousins children, or family in Austria or Ireland.

It's fine if people feel they have a need to connect with people. If it makes them happy, go for it. I had my fill of Summer cookouts with everyone, 100+ people showing up and the mayhem that ensued. Sure, I'd like to see some of my cousins now that we are all grown up, but do I really need to meet 1,000 people that I have no connection to? I don't get what is so great about meeting people you do not know and have no true connection with.

I either know, or know of, pretty much every relative I have here in the States. I also don't feel a need to find even more people (if there are any more here in the States, which I doubt) who are strangers I probably have nothing in common with.

I do have several people I have things in common with, but none of them are my relatives. We can talk freely about a range of subjects and interests that I could never discuss with family members. I'm not a shy man at all, but I'm very picky about the people I allow into my life, and who I am willing to open up to. My mom's sister, who passed away in 2016, was the last relative I could openly discuss certain subjects with (of an unorthodox spiritual or energetic nature). She was the first person at whose funeral I shed tears.

Sorry for going off the topic. FWIW, I don't think there's anything wrong with people wanting to take a DNA test to know more about their backgrounds and who they might be related to. I just don't trust the companies to NOT share my private information.

If some stranger ever contacted me out of the blue, claiming I came up in a search as being a distant relative of theirs, I doubt I would want to actually meet them in person. I can get along with almost anyone, unless they're being rude. But very few people share the same interests as me, and it takes a while for me to trust new people.

Jim

[Naperville]

@James Y I ditched Facebook within a year. Haven't been back there in ages.

It's creepy.

OK now, the Spyderco Forum has semi private and public communications. Yes Facebook has that too, but isn't Facebook supposed to be YOU and your close friends getting together to communicate? Facebook is what you make it, but it is hard to control who sees and says what, it is not a closed system at all.

I joined, followed guys / gals that I did martial arts with and a few relatives discussing ancestry. Then I had people coming out of the woodwork wanting to follow and friend me. I felt creeped out after allowing two dozen people that I did not know get involved in my business. ARE YOU RELATED TO FRANK? Who in the heck is Frank, and who are you?

People claiming they knew people, who I never even met. People claiming they were related to me, who I had absolutely no idea who they were. Holy cow.

OY! Keep all of that on Ancestry.com.

[James Y]

@James Y I ditched Facebook within a year. Haven't been back there in ages.

It's creepy.

OK now, the Spyderco Forum has semi private and public communications. Yes Facebook has that too, but isn't Facebook supposed to be YOU and your close friends getting together to communicate? Facebook is what you make it, but it is hard to control who sees and says what, it is not a closed system at all.

I joined, followed guys / gals that I did martial arts with and a few relatives discussing ancestry. Then I had people coming out of the woodwork wanting to follow and friend me. I felt creeped out after allowing two dozen people that I did not know get involved in my business. ARE YOU RELATED TO FRANK? Who in the heck is Frank, and who are you?

People claiming they knew people, who I never even met. People claiming they were related to me, who I had absolutely no idea who they were. Holy cow.

OY! Keep all of that on Ancestry.com.

TBH, I am on Facebook, but not for entertainment, and at the moment, I rarely post there. I am also on a couple of private Facebook groups, so no one outside of those groups can access those groups. I'm in the process of building a business, so I do need to use Facebook as one avenue to create visibility, and to maintain connections to people I'm already connected to, professionally or otherwise, outside of FB.

I, too, have had people I don't know friend request me on my home page; and if we don't have at least several friends that I do know in common, I delete the requests. A lot of them are scammers, or probably bots. Especially when the person's pic is some young woman posing "cutely" in front of the camera. That's either a dude pretending to be a woman using someone else's photo (or AI), or any other type of scam. I wouldn't be interested, anyway. Those are immediately deleted. The women I know have told me they also get scam friend requests on FB, too; only instead of a young woman with a come-hither expression, the photos of the fake friend requests they get are usually of men in uniform, with fake profiles, obviously intended to impress lonely women, but which none of them are fooled by.

Jim

[Naperville]

This seems like excellent news. An American biotech that makes drugs for hard to beat problems bought 23and Me.

https://www.regeneron.com/

AMERICAN Regeneron Pharmaceuticals to buy 23andMe and its data for $256 million
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/19/regener ... -data.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regeneron_Pharmaceuticals

[James Y]

Was Thomas Edison Really a Mexican?



Jim

[SpyderEdgeForever]

Naperville, Jim, how much or how little a part does geneology and genetics play in metabolism and weight loss/gain?