Mid-sized Native?

[Araignee]

What would you call it? Lil Native Chief?

Lil' Chief would be a fitting name IMHO.

Lil' Native Chief would the most logical naming scheme, however it's a bit long (like the Native Chief )

Thus shortening it to Lil' Chief would roll better off the the tongue, whilst also likening it to its sibling the Lil' Native (each names being composed of two words).

[WilliamMunny]

I would not mind a 3.5 Native but, this may be out of left field, but what about a 3.5” Sage?

[Mushroom]

I haven't changed my mind about this knife but for the sake of discussion, I believe the name “Lil Chief” would cause a lot of easily avoidable confusion. Why would a knife be called “Lil” when there are two versions smaller than it? I love the name “Native Chief” and I believe Spyderco could come up with another creative thematic name if they ever expand the series.

[Araignee]

I haven't changed my mind about this knife but for the sake of discussion, I believe the name “Lil Chief” would cause a lot of easily avoidable confusion. Why would a knife be called “Lil” when there are two versions smaller than it?

It's relative to the model immediately above.

Chief > Lil' Chief > Native > Lil' Native

Such a sequence looks logical to me.

I love the name “Native Chief” and I believe Spyderco could come up with another creative thematic name if they ever expand the series.

There's also Chief Jr. to use another Spyderco naming scheme. But it doesn't sound as good to my ears

[Mushroom]

I haven't changed my mind about this knife but for the sake of discussion, I believe the name “Lil Chief” would cause a lot of easily avoidable confusion. Why would a knife be called “Lil” when there are two versions smaller than it?

It's relative to the model immediately above.

Chief > Lil' Chief > Native > Lil' Native

Such a sequence looks logical to me.

I love the name “Native Chief” and I believe Spyderco could come up with another creative thematic name if they ever expand the series.

There's also Chief Jr. to use another Spyderco naming scheme. But it doesn't sound as good to my ears

I just believe that would create an unnecessary point of confusion in the catalog.
A Lil Chief would be a bigger version of a smaller knife and a smaller version of a bigger version of a smaller knife.

Also, I think it’s worth noting that the full name is “Native Chief” it’s not just “Chief.” “Native” is an important part of the Native Chief’s name. Again, I love the creativity of the name “Native Chief.” I think it is much better and appreciably more creative than something like “Native 5 XL.”

If we’re going by naming schemes, the “Lil” moniker would not apply to this request for a larger variation of Native 5. They don’t make a “Lil” knife that is not it's respective smallest version. A “Lil Native Chief” already exists, it’s just called “Lil Native” though.

[JSumm]

How about "Native Horizon"? Meeting in the middle, where the earth meets the sky.

[Araignee]

I just believe that would create an unnecessary point of confusion in the catalog.
A Lil Chief would be a bigger version of a smaller knife and a smaller version of a bigger version of a smaller knife.

Also, I think it’s worth noting that the full name is “Native Chief” it’s not just “Chief.” “Native” is an important part of the Native Chief’s name. Again, I love the creativity of the name “Native Chief.” I think it is much better and appreciably more creative than something like “Native 5 XL.”

If we’re going by naming schemes, the “Lil” moniker would not apply to this request for a larger variation of Native 5. They don’t make a “Lil” knife that is not it's respective smallest version. A “Lil Native Chief” already exists, it’s just called “Lil Native” though.

I understand your point of view. You have the vanilla Native 5 in mind, whilst for me it's completely out of the picture.

[ImHereForTheMilitary2]

I own a native chief, native g10, and as of a few days ago, a lil native. Looking at all three side by, I can see a definite size gap that needs to be filled. Maybe "Native L"? Maybe ba 3.25-3.5" blade? Sounds perfect.

[kobold]

What do you think is the perfect name for the mid-sized Native and why it is the Elder?

Seriously though, I am very happy this idea is getting bumped. This knife deserves to exist.

[Naperville]

I haven't changed my mind about this knife but for the sake of discussion, I believe the name “Lil Chief” would cause a lot of easily avoidable confusion. Why would a knife be called “Lil” when there are two versions smaller than it?

It's relative to the model immediately above.

Chief > Lil' Chief > Native > Lil' Native

Such a sequence looks logical to me.

I love the name “Native Chief” and I believe Spyderco could come up with another creative thematic name if they ever expand the series.

There's also Chief Jr. to use another Spyderco naming scheme. But it doesn't sound as good to my ears

Big Chief > Native Chief > Lil' Chief > Native > Lil' Native

Still need a Native Chief that is 4.5 to 4.75.

[Mushroom]

How about "Native Horizon"? Meeting in the middle, where the earth meets the sky.

Nailed it!! I like that name idea a lot! Thats the exact type of name creativity I would personally like to see.

I just believe that would create an unnecessary point of confusion in the catalog.
A Lil Chief would be a bigger version of a smaller knife and a smaller version of a bigger version of a smaller knife.

Also, I think it’s worth noting that the full name is “Native Chief” it’s not just “Chief.” “Native” is an important part of the Native Chief’s name. Again, I love the creativity of the name “Native Chief.” I think it is much better and appreciably more creative than something like “Native 5 XL.”

If we’re going by naming schemes, the “Lil” moniker would not apply to this request for a larger variation of Native 5. They don’t make a “Lil” knife that is not it's respective smallest version. A “Lil Native Chief” already exists, it’s just called “Lil Native” though.

I understand your point of view. You have the vanilla Native 5 in mind, whilst for me it's completely out of the picture.

Yes, the knife that the Native Chief is based on. Also, the knife that this variant would be based on.

[Araignee]

How about "Native Horizon"? Meeting in the middle, where the earth meets the sky.

The idea is interesting, but not sure about the word horizon itself, as it doesn't spontaneously evoke the positioning of the knife in the lineup IMHO (but it makes sense once the concept has been spelt out).

Regardless, to take things further, and to remain in the Native theme, the name chosen in English could be translated into one of the main Native languages used in Colorado, where Spyderc'so HQ is located.

E.g. in Arapaho :

HORIZON 3o3oute'; on the horizon: 3o3outei' (refers to a ridge)

In Comanche :

tabe wʉnʉʔitʉstand in the sun; stand just above the horizon (as in the setting sun); waiting for the sun to set

There also Apache, Shoshone and Ute vocabularies to explore.

Big Chief > Native Chief > Lil' Chief > Native > Lil' Native

Still need a Native Chief that is 4.5 to 4.75.

Big Chief, I like that name, sounds mighty
But I can't fathom the size of such a knife

[JSumm]

I think Native Warrior would fit with the Chief and Shaman names, but it seems rather generic and used before in other capacities. Warrior being a step down from the Chief and the Shaman in status (and size in this case). Native Horizon would be my choice still.

[Araignee]

I think Native Warrior would fit with the Chief and Shaman names, but it seems rather generic and used before in other capacities. Warrior being a step down from the Chief and the Shaman in status (and size in this case). Native Horizon would be my choice still.

Personally, I quite like the name and hierarchal logic behind Warrior.

I'd vote for it... if Lil' Chief is ruled out by the Spyderco principals

[Naperville]

Big Chief > Native Chief > Lil' Chief > Native > Lil' Native

Still need a Native Chief that is 4.5 to 4.75.

Big Chief, I like that name, sounds mighty
But I can't fathom the size of such a knife

Large knives don't scare me at all. I've used them my whole 63yrs in the kitchen and when camping, fishing, collecting and martial arts. When I lived at the dojo (in a parking lot in my van) and did martial arts training with 3 different Filipino groups, all coming from Stockton, CA, USA, I trained with real blades...how sharp the blades is I do not know that I ever tested them. But they were real weapons.

None of my Filipino martial arts training has been with folders or knives smaller than 5 inches, most of it with rattan that measured 24 to 28 inches in length to simulate traditional Filipino edged weapons, so when I bought "bladed weapons" I bought knives ranging from 5 to 28 inches. I still plan to buy a few more 24 to 28 inch long weapons, it is very hard to find what I consider a high quality Filipino weapon that I am trained to use.

This is not to say that a knife with a blade that is 1 inch in length is a total waste of time for self defense, just that I prefer to carry a 4 inch or larger knife. Trying to find such a high quality tool is neigh impossible, that is why I trust Spyderco to make the knife that I seek in the Big Chief. As long as it follows the Native Chief I would not be disappointed. Maybe in S30V or S90V? I'd try to buy as many as I was allowed, and then some.

[Araignee]

Large knives don't scare me at all. I've used them my whole 63yrs in the kitchen and when camping, fishing, collecting and martial arts. When I lived at the dojo (in a parking lot in my van) and did martial arts training with 3 different Filipino groups, all coming from Stockton, CA, USA, I trained with real blades...how sharp the blades is I do not know that I ever tested them. But they were real weapons.

None of my Filipino martial arts training has been with folders or knives smaller than 5 inches, most of it with rattan that measured 24 to 28 inches in length to simulate traditional Filipino edged weapons, so when I bought "bladed weapons" I bought knives ranging from 5 to 28 inches. I still plan to buy a few more 24 to 28 inch long weapons, it is very hard to find what I consider a high quality Filipino weapon that I am trained to use.

This is not to say that a knife with a blade that is 1 inch in length is a total waste of time for self defense, just that I prefer to carry a 4 inch or larger knife. Trying to find such a high quality tool is neigh impossible, that is why I trust Spyderco to make the knife that I seek in the Big Chief. As long as it follows the Native Chief I would not be disappointed. Maybe in S30V or S90V? I'd try to buy as many as I was allowed, and then some.

To me this would be solely a matter of portability/ergonomics... it's be unwieldy in my hands.

But certainly, this would constitute a nice, large piece knife for the big handed crowd.

Hopefully your wish for the Big Chief will materialise right after the Lil' Chief starts shipping

[kobold]

There is definitely a spot in my collection for a big folder. Right now it's the Military and the Chief, but after watching Joe X I started eyeing things like the CS Talwar. :-)) But that's a bit too much. I used to want a K2, but I missed the boat. A Big(ger) Chief would be right down my alley for sure. Maybe I should add it to the mockup image I posted earlier.

[ImHereForTheMilitary2]

Native Warrior
Native Tribesman
Native Hunter

[JSumm]

I kinda assumed Native Warrior would be more popular than Native Horizon.

Now, as popular as the mid-sized models seem to be from the outside, I would assume we will see one eventually.

What would really be cool is to change some things up. Make it a little special to warrant a premium and to stand out a bit more. I would suggest a contoured G10 and a thinner blade stock. The Native 5 as is, is a great work knife. Strong and stout. The Chief with its long blade is nice to have the thicker stock. But the middle with the thick Shaman already in the lineup, but keep the contour with the mid size may be a real winner. Standard model available to everyone. Think of the Native 5 CF sprint run but with G10. I would assume it would be black G10 with S30V. Maybe throw in S45 to be different. Just thinking standard Golden steels.

[Naperville]

Large knives don't scare me at all. I've used them my whole 63yrs in the kitchen and when camping, fishing, collecting and martial arts. When I lived at the dojo (in a parking lot in my van) and did martial arts training with 3 different Filipino groups, all coming from Stockton, CA, USA, I trained with real blades...how sharp the blades is I do not know that I ever tested them. But they were real weapons.

None of my Filipino martial arts training has been with folders or knives smaller than 5 inches, most of it with rattan that measured 24 to 28 inches in length to simulate traditional Filipino edged weapons, so when I bought "bladed weapons" I bought knives ranging from 5 to 28 inches. I still plan to buy a few more 24 to 28 inch long weapons, it is very hard to find what I consider a high quality Filipino weapon that I am trained to use.

This is not to say that a knife with a blade that is 1 inch in length is a total waste of time for self defense, just that I prefer to carry a 4 inch or larger knife. Trying to find such a high quality tool is neigh impossible, that is why I trust Spyderco to make the knife that I seek in the Big Chief. As long as it follows the Native Chief I would not be disappointed. Maybe in S30V or S90V? I'd try to buy as many as I was allowed, and then some.

To me this would be solely a matter of portability/ergonomics... it's be unwieldy in my hands.

But certainly, this would constitute a nice, large piece knife for the big handed crowd.

Hopefully your wish for the Big Chief will materialise right after the Lil' Chief starts shipping

Thank you so much. I see so many asking for so much from Spyderco, and this is the only thing that I ask for, a larger Native Chief in the 4.5 to 4.75 inch range in a very good steel. Nobody needs to make it. I'm good just knowing that I asked for it and it is a solid idea. All of the folks that buy larger knives at Cold Steel or other brands would surely buy one.