Michael Janich Joins Spyderco

[VashHash]

Can't wait to see the jani song in production form. It seems like such a great design to have the flipability and strength of a bali in a slimmed down normal looking knife. i wonder how the spyderhole on the handle would do with the jani song. I think it would help to open and close it pretty quick. Index it as it's called in the "business." Of course considering the nature of this knife it would have to be golden made and probably restricted. I almost bought one of the first production run pieces that were being sold on a certain site but i just couldn't fork over $500 for a knife i had every intention of using.

[harkamus]

Can't wait to see the jani song in production form. It seems like such a great design to have the flipability and strength of a bali in a slimmed down normal looking knife. i wonder how the spyderhole on the handle would do with the jani song. I think it would help to open and close it pretty quick. Index it as it's called in the "business." Of course considering the nature of this knife it would have to be golden made and probably restricted. I almost bought one of the first production run pieces that were being sold on a certain site but i just couldn't fork over $500 for a knife i had every intention of using.

I also contemplated on getting one of the production knives for said amount. A Golden made Jani-song would be awesome. I'm just glad to hear that the rights were sold to Spyderco. This gives me hope that the knife may see production one day, after the other goodies get squared away that Mike Janich alluded to.

Regarding indexing, in of the demonstration vids, the pocket clip was used for indexing.

[JT]

Sorry I missed your question and for the delayed response.

Back when I first started teaching MBC under Spyderco's sponsorship, I had a professional meat cutter come through the class. During the lunch break, we had a great conversation about the protective gear used in the meat industry and a week later he sent me a catalog for such gear. I went on a little shopping spree, buying Kevlar sleeves, stainless steel and Kevlar sleeves, gloves, and plastic arm guards. I then put them on a foam-covered dowel that represented a forearm and did some live-blade cutting.

The results:

Kevlar doesn't do anything to stop a sharp knife. Other tests I've done on "cut-resistant" Kevlar gloves proved the same thing.
Hard plastic, while very effective, is just too awkward--even for use in training.
The sleeves made of stainless steel wire and Kevlar actually provided the best combination of protection and flexibility. They are full-arm sleeves that slide over a shirt and secure with a clip at the shoulder. They are too itchy and uncomfortable to wear against exposed skin and too thin for training use, but they actually work very well against cuts and keep the blade from cutting through to the underlying limb. Sewn into the sleeves of a jacket, I think they'd work well.

I have also seen some custom vambraces made from leather, including some that have spring steel strips sewn into them. Smaller decorative vambraces are pretty common and readily available (check out leatherworkers at Rennaissance fairs). My friend Jerry Van Cook uses silver vambraces that look like traditional Native American jewelry. Even heavy leather watchbands can provide some protection.

I hope this helps.

Stay safe,

Mike

Thanks for the response Mike. That's interesting that Kevlar doesn't protect that much. I guess I'll use one of my old vests to do some testing just for the heck of it. I was planning to shoot the vest with my guns next summer, when the gun ranges are opened up again. But I can use the front side for bullets, and the back side for :spyder: knives

I found and interesting link when searching for vambraces. Cool stuff, but some of them would be pretty hard to hide under the clothes. :D :D
http://www.schmitthenner.com/bracers.htm I have nothing to do with them, just found this link with google.

[christopher]

JT, that's one of the reasons for the trauma plate inserted (optionally) in the vests. The trauma plate is "knife proof" the majority of the time. The few times it's not is when the bad guy knows you're wearing one or figures it out and tries again for another spot.

[VashHash]

I wonder how a trauma plate would do against a hissatsu. I find the hissatsu easily stabs through car doors with damage only to the finish. The manix 2 in 154cm also stabs through car doors too.

[christopher]

Not sure. How about a test? Anyone want to volunteer their trauma plate for a test? Maybe I'll buy one. Could be really useful information.

I'll look into it.

[npueppke]

Ever cut the top off a tin can and noticed how flimsy it is? Car bodies are like that (okay maybe not quite that flimsy), they are very thin and hold their shape mostly due to the way they are formed.

I don't think a trauma plate would have any problem withstanding whatever knife you want to throw at it. It would make for an interesting test, though, I'd love to hear about the results (or better yet see some pictures). Who knows, though, maybe a strong enough person or a long enough sword would do it? I'd also be interested in how the knife fares in such a test, obviously it would have to be done safely but thrusting a knife into a trauma plate with full force (as an enraged person conceivably could) would be a spectacular test.

[Blerv]

Without knowing much about a trauma plate I would assume within reason it offers great protection from sharp attacks. Similar a kevlar vest provides good protection against most caliber handgun ammo.

Most things can be defeated by certain objects in certain scenarios. You can only aim for "nearly all" because there are only so many people raging on PCP wielding long spears. :)

[Rex G]

Michael, it is good to see you back with Spyderco! I have been scarce on this forum lately, so I just saw this thread.

My Yojimbos don't get much carry time, largely because I bought them after the discontinuation, so they were somewhat collectible, but my Ronin rides in a certain spot under my police uniform 50+ hours a week. Well, one of my Ronins does; I have about half a dozen, including one made by Mr. Snody. :) I am a big believer in pointy Wharnies! I'd like to see a run of Mega-Ronins, if I may dream!

[Michael Janich]

Dear Rex:

Thank you for the post and the kind words. I'm very glad to hear that your Ronin is still serving you well.

I hope you'll come back and visit more regularly as well.

Stay safe,

Mike

[MyKnife]

Hi Mike,
what do you thing about my idea Yojimbo ball bearing lock? Do you think it is completely buried? Thanks

[TooSharp]

Looks good, can't wait for version 2. I assume you can access the ball lock from the top? That's my only complaint about the CBBL, the sides need chamfered to allow easier access to the lock. I chamfered mine on the Manix2 and it's much more agreeable without making the lock susceptible to accidental closing.

[224477]

MyKnife, the render looks amazing!!!! My regards to the one who made it. MEGA :cool:

[Donut]

I think I said this before, but; I think a ball bearing lock needs the back spacer for it to operate. I don't think that render would work as an actual knife.

[cosmo7809]

That is the coolest effing mock up I have ever seen!

[defenestrate]

I think I said this before, but; I think a ball bearing lock needs the back spacer for it to operate. I don't think that render would work as an actual knife.

This is correct. without reengineering the lock this would not be plausible - though a change in the backspacer to a hardened cage frame type apparatus would potentially allow for the cbbl to have a 3rd "side".. I guess it's hard to describe but the idea is clear in my head. Anyway, as is, the CBBL is not meant to operate without the (integral) backspacer.

[MyKnife]

This is correct. without reengineering the lock this would not be plausible - though a change in the backspacer to a hardened cage frame type apparatus would potentially allow for the cbbl to have a 3rd "side".. I guess it's hard to describe but the idea is clear in my head. Anyway, as is, the CBBL is not meant to operate without the (integral) backspacer.

It was not about to do an accurate functional model. It's just an idea witch waiting for eventual technical precision. I think it might work well. I love this design with BBL .

[Blerv]

It was not about to do an accurate functional model. It's just an idea witch waiting for eventual technical precision. I think it might work well. I love this design with BBL .

I rather appreciated your rendering.

It was done quite a bit better than the pencil tracing or MS Paint I've seen in the past. Fantastic efforts as a visual representation =)