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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:41 pm
by Thevenin
The Mastiff wrote:No explanation but a guess. I think it's scale left from the heat treat not ground off. That's pretty tough stuff, sometimes left on by some knife makers. It could have scaled over in grooves from the first grind, then the second grind after the second heat just wasn't deep enough.
Scale is tougher than rust which could be why it didn't come off after the rubbing compound treatment.
Whether I'm right or wrong it all boils down to "can you live with it for the price you paid and it's intended purpose?".
As we have all heard before, and know to be true there is nothing perfect that's built by man. If it's within Xceptnl's "specs" than it's a keeper. If it's not then it's a return.
Mine, it's a keeper and a user. I'd not hesitate to use the one in your picture for $59.95.
Joe
Thanks.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:33 am
by NYRich
I've no no luck removing the spots with Flitz or any other standard metal polish. Not a major issue as far as I'm concerned. I knew that it wasn't a stainless steel when I ordered it and will keep a light coat of oil on the blade.
Although I had considered making a set of scales myself, at $20 for Halpern titanium scales, it doesn't seem worth the effort. I may make a set anyway, but for now the Halpern's will do the job.
Great service too. Shipped the same day ordered and are due to arrive today.
Now for a sheath.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:42 am
by wquiles
NYRich wrote:Now for a sheath.
This is where I got my custom sheath:
http://spyderco.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51960
Great service and high quality!
sal wrote:Christina Gere makes all of Spyderco's Kydex/Boltaron sheaths. The "Thumb-Push-Off" feature (TPO) was created by Spyderco and is a regular feature of their sheaths.
sal
Will
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:57 am
by NYRich
Thanks, Will.
They don't seem to have a website but I'll make contact one way or another. Do you know if it's necessary to send the actual knife?
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:08 pm
by wquiles
NYRich wrote:Thanks, Will.
They don't seem to have a website but I'll make contact one way or another. Do you know if it's necessary to send the actual knife?
The best way to get a hold of them is by phone.
For best fit/function, yes, it is best to send them the knife (which in the case of the mules, it fits great in a flat-rate small USPS Priority Box for $5). They can make you a sheath without having your knife if you are using "standard" scales that they have (like the ones from Halpern), but there are always small variances, so fit might not be as "perfect" as if they had your knife to start with.
Will
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:31 pm
by Rwb1500
sal wrote:
I must admit that I'm curious if it will be liked enough to make a "Sprint" or even a regular model with this steel?
sal
I haven't scaled my Mule or used it once and I already want a folder with Cruwear. :D
I've been threatening to chop up my Christmas tree (which is still in the house, and hasn't been watered for a month) with the Mule, perhaps that'll be my project for tomorrow. It's supposed to be 58 degrees here tomorrow. I'm pretty excited. :D
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:32 pm
by Zencowboy
Went down to the Spyderco outlet and picked up this cruwear mule. The girl opened 3 of the boxes and they all had the spots on the blade; about 10 little spots. The mule I choose seems to only have a couple. I can live with it!
Also, handled the boltron sheath for the mule by Christina Gere, they are top notch and she also does scales with unique screws I have never seen before. Will email her to see if she has a photo gallery online of previous work.
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:12 pm
by dfriedl
I see that everyone that has gotten one of these has the Cruwear on the blade underlined. I just received mine today, and my knife does not have the cruwear underlined...did I manage to get one that slipped through the 2nd heat treat?
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:48 am
by GLOCKCRAZZ
Just got the Cru-wear back in the mail last night. Very nice. :D
I saw a few people asking about custom sheaths. And just to be clear I run Bayou Custom Sheaths. If anyone has an request I'll be happy to help them with custom sheath setup.
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:57 am
by Rockcrawler
Sending one of mine off Monday to have a maker put some sweet handles on it.
Sooo Elmax should be out this month?? Very very exciting for that one! Sounds like its almost as good as M390 with a proper HT?
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:49 am
by ze12o
here is mine strider wrapped. thinking about scales.. after using it for food.
very happy with the blade.
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:17 pm
by jtoler_9
dfriedl wrote:I see that everyone that has gotten one of these has the Cruwear on the blade underlined. I just received mine today, and my knife does not have the cruwear underlined...did I manage to get one that slipped through the 2nd heat treat?
Where did you buy yours from? I would call Spyderco. I think all the re-treated blades were supposed to be underlined. Let us know how it goes.
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:08 pm
by dfriedl
jtoler_9 wrote:Where did you buy yours from? I would call Spyderco. I think all the re-treated blades were supposed to be underlined. Let us know how it goes.
I ordered it from SFO, about a week ago so it should be one of the heat treated ones. I'll have to drop them a line tomorrow and see whats up!
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:39 am
by ABergh10
Hey all!
How is the patina developing on the blade? Does it stain quickly like the Super Blue / M4 or is it harder to stain?
Thanks!
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:37 am
by ABergh10
Received it yesterday.
Great blade but Customs slapped it with a €26 surcharge (about $35) and that sucks.
Any news on the patina?
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:45 pm
by Zencowboy
I would care for the Cruwear like M4 steel. Wipe down more often with tuf-glide. So far my M4 done this way is still shinny like day I bought it.
Would also cover 100% of the handle of the cruwear with epoxy if putting on scales to help prevent rusting.
Thanks
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:51 am
by wquiles
For the Cruware (bottom one), since it is not stainless, I also gave it a blueing treatment, which darkens the steels (much like with firearms):
Will
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:28 am
by jabba359
Got my two just the other day. Neither one seems to have the spotting shown in a couple of the pictures here.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:58 am
by The Mastiff
If you really let Cruware go it will eventually pit in an ugly way. Don't confuse this with light surface rust or discoloration. With any kind of care at all you will never see bad pitting like I used to see on old scrap pieces of Vascowear that some knifemakers had put away years before and forgotten. Knives put away in the leather sheath wet and left that way for a long time likewise can see some pitting.
It's nothing like steels like W2, Hitachi white, and some other simple carbon steels, but it's not as easy to keep stainfree as the sort of stainless D2