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Re: Military 2 Discussion (Merged)

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vivi wrote:
Tue Apr 01, 2025 3:04 pm
vivi wrote:
Mon Mar 31, 2025 7:05 pm
Any tips on fixing this?

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Tried loosening all the screws and re-tightening them in different orders. No luck.

Tried fiddling with the pivot. No luck.

Tried jamming a folded up piece of paper between the blade and handle to force it to the opposite side. Left it that way for a week. Immediately went right back to where it is when I pulled the paper out.

One of these days I'm going to carry this knife, lol. Waited for the micarta scales to show up, then wanted to dye them, then wanted to dye them a second time for a richer color, then had to cycle the action until it stopped feeling sluggish and bad.

Now I have one last thing to fix and I'll finally start carrying it. Then I can see how long the factory edge lasts, and then put my own edge on.
Any other ideas guys?

I tried fiddling with the pivot screws some more and it's so off center it cuts into the scales unless I push the blade over while I'm closing it.

Kind of annoying. I wanted to carry it today but I can't get it in good enough condition to pocket it.

If I can't fix this I'm just gonna sell it, but I was excited to try 15V and these micarta scales are awesome.

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All I can add is sometimes I will hold the knife in my hand and position my finger so that when I squeeze the knife I'm flexing it in the middle, like I'm trying to snap a pencil in half, and I'll hold it in whichever hand I need to in order to squeeze it in the direction that the blade needs to go in so you kinda need to he a little ambidextrous.

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An off center blade usually happens because the blade is out of parallel with the rest of the knife. I've had luck with just trying to bend the knife either way and see if things get lined back up. I only have one knife I can't dial in and it's an original Rock Lobster that has so little gap between the blade and liners that it's a moot point anyway.
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Re: Military 2 Discussion (Merged)

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Speaking of aftermarket clips, has anyone tried the modular milled two piece Lynch NW clips? If you have them would you mind a few photos of how it looks?
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Re: Military 2 Discussion (Merged)

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vivi wrote:
Tue Apr 01, 2025 3:04 pm
Any other ideas guys?
What happens when you
- install the original scales? To rule out an issue with the aftermarket scales.
- remove the clip? To rule out an issue with the clip screws pulling the one liner.
- swap only the blade into another good M2? To rule out an issue with the blade.
- swap only the liners from another good M2? To rule out an issue with the liners.
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Re: Military 2 Discussion (Merged)

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vivi wrote:
Tue Apr 01, 2025 3:04 pm
vivi wrote:
Mon Mar 31, 2025 7:05 pm
Any tips on fixing this?

Image

Tried loosening all the screws and re-tightening them in different orders. No luck.

Tried fiddling with the pivot. No luck.

Tried jamming a folded up piece of paper between the blade and handle to force it to the opposite side. Left it that way for a week. Immediately went right back to where it is when I pulled the paper out.

One of these days I'm going to carry this knife, lol. Waited for the micarta scales to show up, then wanted to dye them, then wanted to dye them a second time for a richer color, then had to cycle the action until it stopped feeling sluggish and bad.

Now I have one last thing to fix and I'll finally start carrying it. Then I can see how long the factory edge lasts, and then put my own edge on.
Any other ideas guys?

I tried fiddling with the pivot screws some more and it's so off center it cuts into the scales unless I push the blade over while I'm closing it.

Kind of annoying. I wanted to carry it today but I can't get it in good enough condition to pocket it.

If I can't fix this I'm just gonna sell it, but I was excited to try 15V and these micarta scales are awesome.

Image
Have you tried forcing the blade towards the off center side?

The picture below, if the blade is off center towards the show side. With the blade open, put some pressure on the handle down towards the ground. It looks like you are moving the blade towards the off center side, but as you close the knife you realize it is opposite while open. I've had a lot of success with this method even without messing with the hardware.

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Re: Military 2 Discussion (Merged)

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JSumm wrote:
Wed Apr 02, 2025 4:00 am
vivi wrote:
Tue Apr 01, 2025 3:04 pm
vivi wrote:
Mon Mar 31, 2025 7:05 pm
Any tips on fixing this?

Image

Tried loosening all the screws and re-tightening them in different orders. No luck.

Tried fiddling with the pivot. No luck.

Tried jamming a folded up piece of paper between the blade and handle to force it to the opposite side. Left it that way for a week. Immediately went right back to where it is when I pulled the paper out.

One of these days I'm going to carry this knife, lol. Waited for the micarta scales to show up, then wanted to dye them, then wanted to dye them a second time for a richer color, then had to cycle the action until it stopped feeling sluggish and bad.

Now I have one last thing to fix and I'll finally start carrying it. Then I can see how long the factory edge lasts, and then put my own edge on.
Any other ideas guys?

I tried fiddling with the pivot screws some more and it's so off center it cuts into the scales unless I push the blade over while I'm closing it.

Kind of annoying. I wanted to carry it today but I can't get it in good enough condition to pocket it.

If I can't fix this I'm just gonna sell it, but I was excited to try 15V and these micarta scales are awesome.

Image
Have you tried forcing the blade towards the off center side?

The picture below, if the blade is off center towards the show side. With the blade open, put some pressure on the handle down towards the ground. It looks like you are moving the blade towards the off center side, but as you close the knife you realize it is opposite while open. I've had a lot of success with this method even without messing with the hardware.

Image
tried it. didn't do anything.
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Re: Military 2 Discussion (Merged)

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Evil D wrote:
Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:31 pm
vivi wrote:
Tue Apr 01, 2025 3:04 pm
vivi wrote:
Mon Mar 31, 2025 7:05 pm
Any tips on fixing this?

Image

Tried loosening all the screws and re-tightening them in different orders. No luck.

Tried fiddling with the pivot. No luck.

Tried jamming a folded up piece of paper between the blade and handle to force it to the opposite side. Left it that way for a week. Immediately went right back to where it is when I pulled the paper out.

One of these days I'm going to carry this knife, lol. Waited for the micarta scales to show up, then wanted to dye them, then wanted to dye them a second time for a richer color, then had to cycle the action until it stopped feeling sluggish and bad.

Now I have one last thing to fix and I'll finally start carrying it. Then I can see how long the factory edge lasts, and then put my own edge on.
Any other ideas guys?

I tried fiddling with the pivot screws some more and it's so off center it cuts into the scales unless I push the blade over while I'm closing it.

Kind of annoying. I wanted to carry it today but I can't get it in good enough condition to pocket it.

If I can't fix this I'm just gonna sell it, but I was excited to try 15V and these micarta scales are awesome.

Image

All I can add is sometimes I will hold the knife in my hand and position my finger so that when I squeeze the knife I'm flexing it in the middle, like I'm trying to snap a pencil in half, and I'll hold it in whichever hand I need to in order to squeeze it in the direction that the blade needs to go in so you kinda need to he a little ambidextrous.

Image


An off center blade usually happens because the blade is out of parallel with the rest of the knife. I've had luck with just trying to bend the knife either way and see if things get lined back up. I only have one knife I can't dial in and it's an original Rock Lobster that has so little gap between the blade and liners that it's a moot point anyway.
tried it. got really excited for a second because it appeared I got it well centered with this advice. Then I opened and closed it one time and it was back to where my photos show.
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Re: Military 2 Discussion (Merged)

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Brock O Lee wrote:
Tue Apr 01, 2025 7:05 pm
vivi wrote:
Tue Apr 01, 2025 3:04 pm
Any other ideas guys?
What happens when you
- install the original scales? To rule out an issue with the aftermarket scales.
- remove the clip? To rule out an issue with the clip screws pulling the one liner.
- swap only the blade into another good M2? To rule out an issue with the blade.
- swap only the liners from another good M2? To rule out an issue with the liners.
It was like this with the original scales too.

Removing the clip has no affect on centering, I double checked.

I'm not taking taking apart multiple militaries. my other one is perfectly dialed in and loc-tited exactly where I want it.
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Re: Military 2 Discussion (Merged)

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If it was that off center with the factory scales I would have sent that one back 60 seconds after pulling it out of the box. I'm understanding to a point but not when the blade is laying on one side. With it being that bad I would guess that maybe the pivot hole isn't drilled perfectly square in the blade. Not sure what else could make it that far off center and that persistent in going back after you successfully center it up. The only other thing I can think of is you also have issues with pivots loosening up, maybe you're getting it centered successfully but then the pivot is loosening up and it's working it's way over again. But even that suggests that there's a reason it's pulling so hard off center. All the knives I've had off center just seemed to be in a bind from assembly and just needed a little tweaking and from that point on they've stayed centered.

If you can loosen all the screws and flex the knife around so that it'll sit there at rest centered, but then as you start snugging screws down it pulls off center, something isn't square. A torque sequence can only do so much if your cylinder head is warped.
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Re: Military 2 Discussion (Merged)

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Got salt 2 in. Smooth, centered, and not much if any lock stick at all. Def a pocket shredder though lol. I love it and the comp lock steps the Millie up to a new level
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Just got my Mil 2 Salt and it’s centered perfectly and no lock stick . As a lefty very comfortable in hand closing with extra length . I do have an issue with it , switching to left tip up the clip slides back and forth . I have never encountered this problem . Any suggestions ? MG2
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Re: Military 2 Discussion (Merged)

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Coastal wrote:
Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:09 pm
I received my Military 2 Salt today, and could hardly be more pleased. Perfect action, which for me means it takes some force to break the detent, a little effort to slow roll, and the blade drops slowly when the lock is released. I won't be adjusting this one for a while! Blade is well centered and bevels reasonably even but not perfect. I'll reprofile before long anyway.

Here's something I don't usually encounter: The clip screws are so short that the knife won't accept an MXG Gear clip, which is slightly thicker than the OEM clip. I don't have any longer black-coated screws lying around, so it looks like I'll be sanding down an MXG Gear clip. Definitely not a defect, because the original clip works fine. Just a minor, and weird, annoyance.
I have same problem and called Spyderco and talked to Daniel . He is sending me some longer screws .Big thank you to Daniel ! Dan
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Re: Military 2 Discussion (Merged)

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Manixguy@1994 wrote:
Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:31 am
I do have an issue with it , switching to left tip up the clip slides back and forth . I have never encountered this problem . Any suggestions ? MG2
How much does it move? I put a deep carry clip on my Para 3 Salt and it has maybe 1mm total side to side movement if you apply a small amount of side to side force. I just assumed it is the result of the clip not having as much friction on the G10 due to the milling and the deep carry clip not landing on the un milled center section (and on the Military 2 even the stock clips don’t hit that spot).
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Re: Military 2 Discussion (Merged)

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Evil D wrote:
Wed Apr 02, 2025 6:19 am
If it was that off center with the factory scales I would have sent that one back 60 seconds after pulling it out of the box. I'm understanding to a point but not when the blade is laying on one side. With it being that bad I would guess that maybe the pivot hole isn't drilled perfectly square in the blade. Not sure what else could make it that far off center and that persistent in going back after you successfully center it up. The only other thing I can think of is you also have issues with pivots loosening up, maybe you're getting it centered successfully but then the pivot is loosening up and it's working it's way over again. But even that suggests that there's a reason it's pulling so hard off center. All the knives I've had off center just seemed to be in a bind from assembly and just needed a little tweaking and from that point on they've stayed centered.

If you can loosen all the screws and flex the knife around so that it'll sit there at rest centered, but then as you start snugging screws down it pulls off center, something isn't square. A torque sequence can only do so much if your cylinder head is warped.
I didn't mess with it much until I got the scales. I guess I figured I'd try tweaking it when I did the swap.

Should have returned it but wasn't sure I'd be able to get another one.

Pretty much over that knife at this point. I just bought it out of curiosity for the steel but even if it was dead centered it'd barely get carried compared to my Police 4 and other Military 2's, especially now that we're getting summer weather some days.

I'll try to find a buddy that'd be interested in it. It's not worth it to me to keep fiddling with the screws in hope I can make it work, just to have a knife I'll carry once or twice a month that has extra edge holding VS S30V.
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Re: Military 2 Discussion (Merged)

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Well my Military 2 salt is in the mail.

Whenever it gets here I'll check it out as is from the factory. Then decide if I want to keep the stock scales, use the black scales from my S30V model, or maybe throw those green micarta scales on the salt.

we'll see.
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Re: Military 2 Discussion (Merged)

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BaronKrause wrote:
Wed Apr 02, 2025 11:11 am
Manixguy@1994 wrote:
Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:31 am
I do have an issue with it , switching to left tip up the clip slides back and forth . I have never encountered this problem . Any suggestions ? MG2
How much does it move? I put a deep carry clip on my Para 3 Salt and it has maybe 1mm total side to side movement if you apply a small amount of side to side force. I just assumed it is the result of the clip not having as much friction on the G10 due to the milling and it the deep carry clip not landing on the un milled center section (and on the Military 2 even the stock clips don’t hit that spot).
I would say at least 3/8 to 1/2 inch side to side . I checked inside liners and screws are not visible at all . I just removed clip and put Loctite 242 on threads hopefully this will help . MG2
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Re: Military 2 Discussion (Merged)

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Manixguy@1994 wrote:
Wed Apr 02, 2025 10:58 am
Coastal wrote:
Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:09 pm
I received my Military 2 Salt today, and could hardly be more pleased. Perfect action, which for me means it takes some force to break the detent, a little effort to slow roll, and the blade drops slowly when the lock is released. I won't be adjusting this one for a while! Blade is well centered and bevels reasonably even but not perfect. I'll reprofile before long anyway.

Here's something I don't usually encounter: The clip screws are so short that the knife won't accept an MXG Gear clip, which is slightly thicker than the OEM clip. I don't have any longer black-coated screws lying around, so it looks like I'll be sanding down an MXG Gear clip. Definitely not a defect, because the original clip works fine. Just a minor, and weird, annoyance.
I have same problem and called Spyderco and talked to Daniel . He is sending me some longer screws .Big thank you to Daniel ! Dan
Hey thanks, Dan!
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Re: Military 2 Discussion (Merged)

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vivi wrote:
Wed Apr 02, 2025 11:39 am
Well my Military 2 salt is in the mail.

Whenever it gets here I'll check it out as is from the factory. Then decide if I want to keep the stock scales, use the black scales from my S30V model, or maybe throw those green micarta scales on the salt.

we'll see.


I think a person like you is only going to realistically benefit from so much edge retention, in all but the most extreme situations like if you're out camping and didn't bring any sharpening gear but that doesn't seem like you anyway. I think in most every other scenario you'll be happier with the MagnaCut version.
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Re: Military 2 Discussion (Merged)

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Yeah I know I will be. I've never been in a camping scenario where I needed to sharpen a knife. I don't hunt regularly and slicing up food and carving wood are both easy on edges. Even my two week long bike tours I got by fine with a PE Pacific Salt.

Curious to see how good / bad the clip situation is on the salt.
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Re: Military 2 Discussion (Merged)

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Coastal wrote:
Wed Apr 02, 2025 11:55 am
Manixguy@1994 wrote:
Wed Apr 02, 2025 10:58 am
Coastal wrote:
Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:09 pm
I received my Military 2 Salt today, and could hardly be more pleased. Perfect action, which for me means it takes some force to break the detent, a little effort to slow roll, and the blade drops slowly when the lock is released. I won't be adjusting this one for a while! Blade is well centered and bevels reasonably even but not perfect. I'll reprofile before long anyway.

Here's something I don't usually encounter: The clip screws are so short that the knife won't accept an MXG Gear clip, which is slightly thicker than the OEM clip. I don't have any longer black-coated screws lying around, so it looks like I'll be sanding down an MXG Gear clip. Definitely not a defect, because the original clip works fine. Just a minor, and weird, annoyance.
I have same problem and called Spyderco and talked to Daniel . He is sending me some longer screws .Big thank you to Daniel ! Dan
Hey thanks, Dan!
After applying Loctite 242 and curing the clip is rock solid . I still may replace the screws when they come in. Very relieved , this knife is awesome in hand for me . Need to decide if I want another variant by Friday . Dan
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Image really like this knife . MG2
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