Where Artificial Intelligence Is Right Now

[James Y]

Artificial Intelligence, Authentic Incompetence



Jim

[Mushroom]

"Authentic incompetence" - EXACTLY!!!

I despise how Ai encourages human incompetence.

Just making dumber people even dumber - I should probably start using A.i, so I have a better excuse...

[Ankerson]

Artificial Intelligence, Authentic Incompetence



Jim

Aren't most incompetent enough already without the extra help, taking into count current affairs.


Jim

[James Y]

Artificial Intelligence, Authentic Incompetence



Jim

Aren't most incompetent enough already without the extra help, taking into count current affairs.


Jim

Well, yes. But can you imagine it getting even worse?

Jim

[Ankerson]

Artificial Intelligence, Authentic Incompetence



Jim

Aren't most incompetent enough already without the extra help, taking into count current affairs.


Jim

Well, yes. But can you imagine it getting even worse?

Jim

I suppose anything is possible.


Jim

[SpyderEdgeForever]

Scary! Aria the robot mate.

https://interestingengineering.com/phot ... girlfriend


But if she gets a short circuit and attacks her guy?
Or gets hacked.

[shunsui]

China pokes fun at OpenAI with open source DeepSeek-R1 model.
Not only free to all, but very good.

[shunsui]

How to install and run Open Source DeepSeek-R1 on your Windows Computer. No Apple Apps, no Chinese servers.



Some useful graphics card info from the Comments Section:

@akashdahane9136
Can we train this model further for our usecase

Aleksandar Haber PhD
@aleksandarhaber
I think that online (not through Ollama) all the model parameters are available and source code. However, keep in mind that to update the model you would probably need several GPUs costing at least 100,000. For inference you can use NVIDIAs 3090, 4090, and 5090.

Wow, those are Expensive cards.
You can run the smallest models with just a CPU though.

[Naperville]

How to install and run Open Source DeepSeek-R1 on your Windows Computer. No Apple Apps, no Chinese servers.



Some useful graphics card info from the Comments Section:

@akashdahane9136
Can we train this model further for our usecase

Aleksandar Haber PhD
@aleksandarhaber
I think that online (not through Ollama) all the model parameters are available and source code. However, keep in mind that to update the model you would probably need several GPUs costing at least 100,000. For inference you can use NVIDIAs 3090, 4090, and 5090.

Wow, those are Expensive cards.
You can run the smallest models with just a CPU though.

I have a NEW computer. Been thinking of installing an AI locally but I am waiting for Meta's open source response to DeepSeek's open source.

ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDM - 32 INCH Monitor

DELL Alienware Aurora R16 Gaming Desktop
Intel Core i9 14900KF (68 MB cache, 24 cores, up to 6.0 GHz P-Core Thermal Velocity)
Operating System: Windows 11 Pro
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090, 24 GB GDDR6X
Memory: 64 GB: 2 x 32 GB, DDR5, 5200 MT/s
Storage: 4 TB, M.2, PCIe NVMe, SSD; 4 TB

[Naperville]

I have the same fears about putting DeepSeek on my system, that is why I am waiting for Meta to release an update, an answer to the CCP.


U.S. Navy bans use of DeepSeek due to 'security and ethical concerns'

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/28/us-navy ... using.html

[SpyderEdgeForever]

I have the same fears about putting DeepSeek on my system, that is why I am waiting for Meta to release an update, an answer to the CCP.


U.S. Navy bans use of DeepSeek due to 'security and ethical concerns'

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/28/us-navy ... using.html

If you had an AI robot that was mobile and flexible and it said it likes knives and could do all your household chores and cost around 100 dollars, would that be a cool companion?

[Scandi Grind]

If you had an AI robot that was mobile and flexible and it said it likes knives and could do all your household chores and cost around 100 dollars, would that be a cool companion?

If it could actually do my household chores, it would have to cost more than $100, at least to continue running it if not upfront. But even if it were possible, just for hypothetical reasons, I don't think I would enjoy a robot's company. While I am naturally distrustful of machines, I have also found enough evidence to support that distrust that I would never feel comfortable with such a thing being frequently present.

[Naperville]

I have the same fears about putting DeepSeek on my system, that is why I am waiting for Meta to release an update, an answer to the CCP.


U.S. Navy bans use of DeepSeek due to 'security and ethical concerns'

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/28/us-navy ... using.html

If you had an AI robot that was mobile and flexible and it said it likes knives and could do all your household chores and cost around 100 dollars, would that be a cool companion?

$100? If it is worth the $100, yes probably, but I cannot see it only costing $100.

You cannot get much for $100 now. Prices for everything are insane!

[Naperville]

Very amateurish system administration and database security. Maybe they are planning on scooping up the data?




The main document
https://thehackernews.com/2025/01/deeps ... ver-1.html

[Naperville]

[Naperville]

DeepSeek AI is collecting a ton of information on users:

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-indus ... ed-servers

[Doc Dan]

Since Americans are amongst the most ignorant people on the planet, and getting worse, and A.I. cogitate from ground truth that has already been programmed by truly ignorant people, I cannot see any good in all of this, ultimately.

[RustyIron]

I have type 2 diabetes and use an app on my iPhone that utilizes AI.

OMG! That's exactly what Elon Musk wants you to have for breakfast? You're his puppet! What if he sells that information to the Chinese? What are you going to do then?



My ChatGPT window has a sidebar with my recent searches. It shows that it has recently provided me with answers to a variety of questions such as the volume of an oddly shaped vessel, a verbal description of the path of the Earth as it moves though space, local plants that thrive after a wildfire, and why the public hates scientists. The last thing I asked it last night was somewhat whimsical. I was curious what guitar Johnny Winter was playing at the Rockpalast concerts in 1983. Not only did the AI answer in about one second, she explained why he chose that particular model. In case you were wondering, it was a 1963 Gibson Firebird V.

Anyway, I think AI is an excellent tool best suited for researchers of all sorts, technical people, and the perpetually curious. For everyone else, there's always Tik Tok and YouTube.

[Scandi Grind]

It has been interesting looking into the background of AI a bit with my brother who is in the tech space. We are learning about all the mega scale data centers that big companies like Amazon, Google, and Microsoft are building to run AI. I was curious about why everybody was so determined to integrate AI into everything, but these big companies behavior in the background is making it clear to me now. Basically AI costs a lot, in fact most of the supposedly fastest growing AI companies actually aren't profitable, but they keep running due to the investment of companies like Amazon. By being the only way that an AI company can stay in business, Amazon, for example, has an easy way to force this AI company to use Amazon servers if they want to stay in business. So really Amazon has the real control there. Then Amazon simultaneously tries to stuff AI into every single thing we do on a computer, giving us interesting, novel, or useful features that we couldn't get otherwise. This is where the massive data centers come in. Amazon is perfectly happy to run and profit from the massive amount of compute needed to run AI. The more AI there is, the more data centers we need Amazon for. This also means that there isn't a real motivation to improve AI. It serves big business better if the system is wasteful and requires their massive rescources to run it.

The recent development of new AI system that is showing promise of being significantly more efficient has some businesses quite upset. If it becomes easier for people to run AI, then these businesses lose their foot hold.

It is also important to note that at the rate that these big businesses are expanding their mega scale data centers, they are actually depleting important rescources rapidly. Protests to the construction of more data centers are starting to pop up as certain cities are literally running out of water and electricity because of these data centers' presence.

I'm sure I'm not doing the best job of describing this, but it is interesting, and a bit disconcerting, to see some of the "why" that big business has for trying to shove AI up the throats of any product they can.

[Naperville]

Maybe we can set artificial intelligence to develop a true measurement system, one that makes sense and is not contrived.

The only human measurement that makes sense is the solar year and the solar day for the people in any specific solar system. Can you think of any other measurements that are logical? The measurement systems are all fake and contrived.

The mile, yard, foot, inch, kilometer, meter, cm, mm, ton, pound, kilogram, gram, teaspoon, tablespoon, cup, hour, minute, second, and calendar month are all garbage.

I wonder what AI would come up with?

Does anyone have access to the most capable AI over at ChatGPT? CoPilot is garbage.