Perhaps Seki is Running through it’s supply of LC200N and more wasn’t purchased to make room for Magna-Cut.cjk wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:20 amThere's still a yellow H1/H2 SE Atlantic Salt.electro-static wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:11 amI was most shocked about the atlantic salt in LC200N. met a guy who an under water welder and he said that in no uncertain terms the Atlantic salt SE was one of the best diving knives. Wonder if Seki is moving to magna-cut instead?
When Spyderco moved the yellow Native Salt from LC200N to Magnacut, nothing got discontinued if I remember correctly. The part numbers didn't change.
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Surprised me to see the CF Chaparral on the list. It’s the smallest knife I can handle with confidence. Mine is extremely well made. It’s satisfying just opening and closing it—it’s made that well. So, I bought another one, along with the Sun and Moon. Got them from National Knives this morning. He’s sold out now. The Chaparral and the Sage are the only small knives I carry. I usually carry a Military. Love the CF Chaparral. Sorry to see it go.
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GarageBoy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:00 pmYes but how many of those are variations of the same models? All the collaboration models or the more "unique" models seem to be Taiwanese made. Paysan, swayback, techno, etc probably sell way less than pm2s etc
I used the current Spyderco price list to come up with more accurate data BEFORE the new discontinued list.
Number of items for each category:
- Folding Knives: 386
- Fixed Blades: 35
- Kitchen Knives (ALL): 35
- Sharpners (ALL): 29
- Accessories (ALL): 88
- Byrd: 57
Just looking at ALL 386 Folding Knives (excluding Byrd line) by Country of Origin:
- Japan: 166
- USA: 113
- China: 60
- Taiwan: 34
- Italy: 13
- Delica: 29
- Endura: 26
- Native: 17
- Dragonfly: 16
- Tenacious: 15
- Para 3: 13
- Manix: 11
- ParaMilitary: 10
- Endela: 10
- Persistence: 10
- Salt: 10
- Pacific Salt: 9
- Native Chief: 8
- Military 2: 8
- Lil' Native: 8
- Ladybug: 8
- Manbug: 8
- UKPK: 8
- Ambitious: 7
- Autonomy: 7
- Resilience: 7
- Roadie: 7
- Military: 6
- Police: 6
- Rescue: 5
- Shaman: 5
- Atlantic: 4
- Chaparral: 4
- ClipiTool: 4
- LeafJumper: 4
- Strech: 4
- Tasman: 4
- Lil' Temperance: 3
- Assist: 3
- Efficient: 3
- Matriarch: 3
- Sage: 3
- Stretch: 3
- Yojimbo: 3
- Manix XL: 2
- Caribbean: 2
- Cricket: 2
- Dog: 2
- Emphasis: 2
- Grasshoppe: 2
- Insistent: 2
- MicroJimbo: 2
- P'Kal: 2
- RockJumper: 2
- SpyOpera: 2
- Squeak: 2
- Subvert: 2
- UpTern: 2
- YoJumbo: 2
- Alcyone: 1
- Amalgam: 1
- Astute: 1
- Bradley: 1
- Bug: 1
- Caly: 1
- Canis: 1
- Cat: 1
- Centofante: 1
- Chapparal: 1
- Chicago: 1
- Civilian: 1
- Drunken: 1
- Harpy: 1
- HoneyBee: 1
- Honeybee: 1
- Ikuchi: 1
- JaniSong: 1
- Kapara: 1
- Karahawk: 1
- McBee: 1
- Pattadese: 1
- Paysan: 1
- Pochi: 1
- Polestar: 1
- Roc: 1
- Saver: 1
- Sliverax: 1
- SmallFly: 1
- Smock: 1
- SpydieChef: 1
- Stovepipe: 1
- SwayBack: 1
- Techno: 1
- Urban: 1
- Vallotton: 1
- Watu: 1
* All Byrd Knives are made in China.
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Wow that’s good work. I will have to print this. Thanks RamZar.
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Thanks. A few minor corrections.
Chaparral & HoneyBee are in the unique Folding Knives models list twice because the Spyderco price list had them with two different spellings — Chapparal & Honeybee. So, there are only 89 unique models instead of 91.
Also, I should remove the 8 Sprint Runs from the Folding Knives which would bring it down to 378 from 386.
On another note, when you look at the Delica4 with 28 variations (excluding the one Sprint) and to that add 10 Salt2 models (pretty much a Delica) you end up with 38 variations! Same with 26 Endura4 models plus 9 Pacific Salt2 models you end up with 35 variations in all!
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Man, that is a lot of variants and parts to source, make, stock and move. We already knew that, but having the numbers makes it look even more impressive. No wonder the existence of some models slips my mind from time to time.
I’ll add that compared to production companies in other areas of manufacturing that I’m more intimately familiar with, the number of SKU’s is not at all that impressive, but in those cases the range of products is much more diverse. Given that the overwhelming majority of Spyderco’s SKUs are just different interpretations of a sharpened edge with a handle, the numbers still WOWs me.
I’ll add that compared to production companies in other areas of manufacturing that I’m more intimately familiar with, the number of SKU’s is not at all that impressive, but in those cases the range of products is much more diverse. Given that the overwhelming majority of Spyderco’s SKUs are just different interpretations of a sharpened edge with a handle, the numbers still WOWs me.
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Knifeworks has added the disco'd models to their sales page, a little later than some other shops. If you're still searching for something that is already sold out elsewhere check it out.
Made a liar out of my above post; never owned a Sage series so I did grab a Sage 5 CF/G10.
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RamZar,
great list, love it and thanks for taking the time to compile it. Take a look at number 31 and 38. Both show the Stretch but with different spelling. Believe there to be 4 different Stretch variants at present time.
great list, love it and thanks for taking the time to compile it. Take a look at number 31 and 38. Both show the Stretch but with different spelling. Believe there to be 4 different Stretch variants at present time.
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Shame about the rockjumper. I was hoping they'd bring out a K390 version.
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Thanks.
It should be (once you exclude the Sprint Run):
— Stretch 2: 2
— Stretch 2 XL: 4
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From the latest Spyderco Price List, BEFORE the newly Discontinued ones, there are 378 Folding Knives (excluding the Byrd Line & Sprint Runs and including any announced in a Reveal) and from that we come up with 88 Unique Models (listed by most model numbers first).
- Delica4: 28
- Endura4: 26
- Native5: 17
- Dragonfly2: 15
- Tenacious: 15
- Military (ALL): 14
- Para3: 13
- Manix2: 10
- Endela: 10
- Persistence: 10
- Salt2: 10
- ParaMilitary2: 9
- Pacific Salt2: 9
- Native Chief: 8
- Lil' Native: 8
- Ladybug3: 8
- Manbug: 8
- UKPK: 8
- Ambitious: 7
- Autonomy (ALL): 7
- Resilience: 7
- Roadie: 7
- Police: 6
- Chaparral: 5
- Rescue: 5
- Shaman: 4
- Atlantic: 4
- ClipiTool: 4
- LeafJumper: 4
- Stretch2 XL: 4
- Tasman: 4
- Lil' Temperance: 3
- Assist: 3
- Efficient: 3
- Matriarch: 3
- Sage: 3
- Yojimbo: 3
- Caribbean: 2
- Cricket: 2
- DogTag: 2
- Emphasis: 2
- Grasshoppe: 2
- HoneyBee: 2
- Insistent: 2
- Manix2 XL: 2
- MicroJimbo: 2
- P'Kal: 2
- RockJumper: 2
- Squeak: 2
- Stretch2: 2
- UpTern: 2
- YoJumbo: 2
- Alcyone: 1
- Amalgam: 1
- Astute: 1
- Bradley: 1
- Bug: 1
- Caly: 1
- Canis: 1
- Cat: 1
- Centofante: 1
- Chicago: 1
- Civilian: 1
- Drunken: 1
- Harpy: 1
- Ikuchi: 1
- JaniSong: 1
- Kapara: 1
- Karahawk: 1
- McBee: 1
- Pattadese: 1
- Paysan: 1
- Pochi: 1
- Polestar: 1
- Roc: 1
- Saver: 1
- Sliverax: 1
- SmallFly: 1
- Smock: 1
- SpydieChef: 1
- SpyOpera: 1
- Stovepipe: 1
- Subvert: 1
- SwayBack: 1
- Techno: 1
- Urban: 1
- Vallotton: 1
- Watu: 1
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Some amazing deals on these. I had to grab a Rockjumper at $60. That’s a ton of knife for the money
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Soanso McMasters wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:42 amSome amazing deals on these. I had to grab a Rockjumper at $60. That’s a ton of knife for the money
Same.
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I was on the fence about ordering a Rockjumper. I already have two Delica Wharncliffs that are pretty close. I have a store credit at National so I asked if they expect to get more in. He said hopefully next week. He's waiting to receive an invoice to know what's coming. If National doesn't receive any I'll look elsewhere. Not a big deal if I don't end up with oneSoanso McMasters wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:42 amSome amazing deals on these. I had to grab a Rockjumper at $60. That’s a ton of knife for the money
Of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most!
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Knifejoy still has the SE for 59.95. I've been debating it all morning. I have the Delica Wharncliff also, but.....
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And I also have an S35vn Resilience coming from National. My first and couldn't resist it at 85.00. I had been looking at getting one for about 3 months now and I waited just long enough.
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In the Spyderco 2023 RETAIL PRICE GUIDE Volume 3:
Note: The 378 Spyderco Folding Knives includes 21 which have been announced in Reveals or Product Guides but not yet delivered.
- There are 57 Byrd Knives of which 27 were just Discontinued (47%) and that leaves 30.
- There are 378 Folding Knives (excluding the Byrd Line & Sprint Runs and including any announced in a Reveal) of which 60 were just Discontinued (16%) and that leaves 318.
Note: The 378 Spyderco Folding Knives includes 21 which have been announced in Reveals or Product Guides but not yet delivered.
- MicroJimbo CPM-S30V Satin Blade Black G-10 C264GP (USA) - Reveal 13 (MAY 2023)
- MicroJimbo CPM-S30V Black DLC Blade Black G-10 C264GPBK (USA) - Reveal 13 (MAY 2023)
- Military2 CPM-S30V Satin Blade ComboEdge Black G-10 C36GPS2 (USA) - Reveal 13 (MAY 2023)
- Military2 CPM-S30V Satin Blade SpyderEdge Black G-10 C36GS2 (USA) - Reveal 13 (MAY 2023)
- Military2 CPM-S30V Black DLC Blade PlainEdge Black G-10 C36GPBK2 (USA) - Reveal 13 (MAY 2023)
- Military2 CPM-S30V Black DLC Blade ComboEdge Black G-10 C36GPSBK2 (USA) - Reveal 13 (MAY 2023)
- Military2 CPM-S30V Black DLC Blade SpyderEdge Black G-10 C36GSBK2 (USA) - Reveal 13 (MAY 2023)
- Military2 CPM-S30V Satin Blade PlainEdge Digital Camo G-10 C36GPCMO2 (USA) - Reveal 13 (MAY 2023)
- Military2 CPM-S30V Black DLC Blade PlainEdge Digital Camo G-10 C36GPCMOBK2 (USA) - Reveal 13 (MAY 2023)
- Native Chief Lightweight CPM-SPY27 Satin Blade Cobalt Blue FRN C244PCBL (USA) - Reveal 13 (MAY 2023)
- Native Chief Lightweight CTS-BD1N Satin Blade PlainEdge Black FRN C244PBK (USA) - Reveal 13 (MAY 2023)
- Native Chief Lightweight CTS-BD1N Satin Blade ComboEdge Black FRN C244PSBK (USA) - Reveal 13 (MAY 2023)
- Native Chief Lightweight CTS-BD1N Satin Blade SpyderEdge Black FRN C244SBK (USA) - Reveal 13 (MAY 2023)
- Native Chief Lightweight CTS-BD1N Black DLC Blade PlainEdge Black FRN C244PBBK(USA) - Reveal 13 (MAY 2023)
- Native Chief Lightweight CTS-BD1N Black DLC Blade ComboEdge Black FRN C244PSBBK (USA) - Reveal 13 (MAY 2023)2
- Native Chief Lightweight CTS-BD1N Black DLC Blade SpyderEdge Black FRN C244SBBK (USA) - Reveal 13 (MAY 2023)
- UK Penknife Salt LC200N SpyderEdge Green FRN C94SGR (USA) - Reveal 10 (JUN 2022)
- UK PenKnife Salt CPM-MagnaCut PlainEdge Yellow FRN C94PYL (USA) - 2023 Product Guide
- UK PenKnife Salt CPM-MagnaCut SpyderEdge Yellow FRN C94SYL (USA) - 2023 Product Guide
- Tenacious CPM-M4 PlainEdge Brown G-10 C122GBNM4P (China) - Reveal 13 (MAY 2023)
- Tenacious CPM-M4 ComboEdge Brown G-10 C122GBNM4PS (China) - Reveal 13 (MAY 2023)
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Interesting. Thank you for that, RamZar. I wonder if the Byrd brand provides enough value for Spyderco at this point to justify a separate line?
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I just wanted to give a quick shoutout to the thin (red/blue) line Endura, somewhere buried in the disco'ed list and before it's gone.
Combo edge ffg in VG10 with a good (though not 100% perfect for my liking) serration pattern on the SE part (and the closest yet to the ffg, regular blade shape, full SE, VG10 Endura I am still hoping and waiting for).
A really useful all around - all purpose EDC folder, I think the red (blue) accents look cool, and after all fire fighters resp. Police gets supported when purchasing one (not sure though if the latter is still true with reduced prices).
Combo edge ffg in VG10 with a good (though not 100% perfect for my liking) serration pattern on the SE part (and the closest yet to the ffg, regular blade shape, full SE, VG10 Endura I am still hoping and waiting for).
A really useful all around - all purpose EDC folder, I think the red (blue) accents look cool, and after all fire fighters resp. Police gets supported when purchasing one (not sure though if the latter is still true with reduced prices).
Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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The whole Thin Red/Blue Line is a nice touch and they’re at 51% off MSRP shipped!
I have one of the Rescue 3 ones for under $80 delivered.
I have one of the Rescue 3 ones for under $80 delivered.
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