Native Chief XL - FOLDER!

[vivi]

Hmm. It seems my post may have offended some people... But if there are other people out there who would want one, why not?

No offense here, either. I guess it all comes down to how many people would want one. If the market wants it, sure. I think it's too big for my pocket (and/or socks) but perhaps I'm the runtish minority. I still haven't purchased a Chief yet because it's "too big" for me. Clearly lots of people think otherwise.

God rest ye, merry gentlemen! May nothing you dismay.
Perhaps an extra large-ish Chief will somehow find its way
Into your pocket or your sock-drawer or into a sheath
Where you use it to make a Christmas wreath!

TBH, I've still yet to buy a regular Chief myself. I'm guessing it's the same size as my Police 4 lightweight, which is comfortable for me, size-wise, but is pretty much the length limit I would personally carry in a folder. Starting from about 4.5 to 5 inches, I prefer a fixed blade, as the handle length on a folder is longer.

Why haven't I bought a Chief? I'm hoping for it to switch over to Magnacut. Which probably isn't going to happen anytime soon, if ever. It would cost a lot more by then, too. Maybe I'll just pull the trigger and get a standard one before the end of the year...still got a week to go...



Jim

This is one of the things I was pointing out earlier:

police - 5.63" (143mm)

chief - 5.08" (129mm)

.55" or 22mm difference in their closed measurements.

A 4.5" blade Chief would be about the same closed length as the Police or Military. Knives Spyderco has been selling for decades.

That's why I thought all the pocket sword references were silly. This is more like going from the Endura to the Police.

The Chief is very compact despite having the same cutting edge as a Military. It carries closer to an Endura than a Police.

[Airlsee]

The pocket sword references were regarding a 5-inch Native Chief, which would make your measurements wildly inaccurate. This is not the first time you have re-interpreted my post.

[Wartstein]

I think this place is filled with people very passionate about particular niches in our hobby. Sometimes it can be tough to understand why someone is so invested in a particular trait, but it is what it is.

Wartstein really likes a good edge to blade length ratio...BBB really likes extreme edge retention steels run hard....I really like rust proof knives....etc.

At the end of the day we're all here for the same thing.

Well said!

And concerning that Wartstein: You know me pretty well indeed!
But even more precisely put: I like a good edge-to-closed-length-ratio (which of course can be achieved by a good edge to blade ratio)

/ Generally, and without meaning to offend anyone at all:
I don´t understand why people have problems whatsoever with threads or proposals like this.

I may cite Michael Janich (quote): "however, like all things Spyderco, if you really want something, keep asking for it here [on this forum]" (see at the very end of this post: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87043&p=1437159#p1437159)

No one who thinks a proposal or wish concerning a design is useless or silly has to even look at the corresponding thread.
And if not the whole first site is occupied with "I´d wish for a xxx version of model yyy" I don´t see any problem (and regardless in which category a thread generally falls: Having the first site clogged up as a whole with any kind of all similar threads would be a bit inconvenient, regardless if about "I wish for" or "How to sharpen" or "what should I buy" or "...")

[vivi]

no idea.

we have a million small spydercos but a single request for an XL triggered a lot of folks.

we have a bunch of high edge retention steels to choose from but being excited for rust proof steels ruffles some people feathers.

I don't understand it either. Can't recall the last time anyone asked for a bigger version of any Spyderco, yet here we are with another thread on the front page mocking this request.

I asked for a larger yojimbo and we got it. These requests aren't without precedent.

[ChrisinHove]

After many warnings from Taz, I'm going to bow out from Spyderco Forums. Hopefully the Spyderco Native Chief XL gets manufactured.

Tootle Pip!

I'm sorry to see you go, Naperville. Hopefully, you'll be back again soon.

Jim

+1

[ChrisinHove]

… yet here we are with another thread on the front page mocking this request.

I think it’s all just friendly banter. There have been quite a few models spawned from these pages, so I’m sure no one doubts their voice is heard.

[James Y]

I say go for it! $168 really isn't a bad deal when you consider that the S90V/CF version was $245...

The Chief is a design worth owning without doubt! I do think that a MagnaCut variant will pop up in the next 24 months, but will be more sought after and come at a price closer to $200. All just wild speculation on my part of course.

We’ll see…decisions, decisions!

Jim

[Matus]

I'm not offended, all's well Jim, and I understand your take.

Ditto

Merry Christmas everyone - whether you like your Native long or short

[Bolster]

...we have a million small spydercos but a single request for an XL triggered a lot of folks.... Can't recall the last time anyone asked for a bigger version of any Spyderco, yet here we are with another thread on the front page mocking this request.

I confess to posting the Li'l XL Sage thread (intended in fun), but I'm not sure the above is accurate. In just three pages of search I found XL requests for:

Smock XL
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=91312&p=1580429
Native Chief XL
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=91315&p=1580532
Chef XL
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=90263&p=1543289
Chap XL
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=90194&p=1540945
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85342&p=1377379
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=82771&p=1302254
Techno XL
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88619&p=1485926
Rock XL
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88209&p=1473396
Stretch XL
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87735&p=1457027
Autonomy XL
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=86947&p=1430318
Caribbean XL
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86693&p=1422594
Shaman
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86248&p=1408122
Dfly XL
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86064&p=1402652
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=82922&p=1305853
Paramil XL
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85868&p=1395929

Interestingly, even Vivi had enough of the Li'l requests at one time:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=80956&p=1259778

As the days go by I feel like every Spyderco knife gets a "lil" request. Even scaled down, mini versions of knives, are asked to be shrunk even further! ...

I've seen a ton of Li'l requests too. I don't mean to imply there's anything wrong with Li'l and XL versions, just pointing out that there are loads of requests for smaller and larger versions of existing knives which, if produced, likey mean that new original knives aren't produced. Spyderco can only put out so many models.

Not "triggered," but: I'm more interested in seeing Spyderco design new, original versions of large and small knives, rather than making stretched and compressed versions of existing knives. Much as I like the Caly 3, not interested in either a 2" version of it or a 5" version of it.

Just my opinion and worth what ya paid for it.

[ZrowsN1s]

I know for sure I have done it. But the longer I'm on the forum the more I tend, when someone suggests something I'm not interested in, to keep it to myself.

If someone suggests something and only 3 people say count me in, it's fairly obvious there's not a lot of interest. The "I think that's a terrible idea" posts aren't necessary.

Although constructive criticism CAN move an idea forward. Just make sure the criticism IS constructive.

[Wartstein]

...we have a million small spydercos but a single request for an XL triggered a lot of folks.... Can't recall the last time anyone asked for a bigger version of any Spyderco, yet here we are with another thread on the front page mocking this request.

.....In just three pages of search I found XL requests for:

[/quote]

I think you got Vivi wrong (but perhaps I do, only he can tell!)

This is not about asking for a XL version of ANY knife, but for a really "XL"KNIFE in itself!
Like an XL version of an already large knife like the Chief would be.

Most of the examples in your list where people asked for an XL version of a particular knife would still no result in a real "XL" knife (so LARGER than a Chief, basically Police size)

You know what I mean? A Chap XL still would be small to medium, a Caribbean XL would be just "large", same goes for the Stretch XL, the Smock XL (going from medium to large (Chief size, but not REALLY XL).

/ Btw: The Stretch XL is a folder Sal himself choose to create (as far as I recall there are already prototypes)

[JRinFL]

After many warnings from Taz, I'm going to bow out from Spyderco Forums. Hopefully the Spyderco Native Chief XL gets manufactured.

Tootle Pip!

Well, please don’t make it a long break. Come back when you’re ready.

My one post was only meant as levity, not mocking the idea. Apologies if it came across as mockery.

[JRinFL]

...we have a million small spydercos but a single request for an XL triggered a lot of folks.... Can't recall the last time anyone asked for a bigger version of any Spyderco, yet here we are with another thread on the front page mocking this request.

I confess to posting the Li'l XL Sage thread (intended in fun), but I'm not sure the above is accurate. In just three pages of search I found XL requests for:
<snip>

That’s the way I took it. The holidays can be very stressful for many, so I can see how some might interpret it as mockery.

[Bolster]

If it weren't for mockery, we'd not have the Most Noble Order of the Sock Drawer!

[Wartstein]

After many warnings from Taz, I'm going to bow out from Spyderco Forums. Hopefully the Spyderco Native Chief XL gets manufactured.

Tootle Pip!

Don´t know what that warnings were about, but I´ll certainly miss your posts and hope you´ll return soon!

[Naperville]

I dunno guys. Are we sure about this idea? That handle is getting awfully big... a two-handed handle...here's a rendering of the Stretched Chief atop the current Chief...at this point, I'm inclined to go for a fixed blade...

I like it! Sign me up.

For my own family I'd buy at least 3 maybe 4 in S30V or better. If they come in S90V, I'll buy 5, because a knife like that is just impossible to find anywhere else.

[Naperville]

If anyone wants a Native Chief XL, you have to keep this thread popin!

Let Sal and Eric hear from you!

[Naperville]

Native Chief and Native Chief XL by BOLSTER:

[James Y]

TBH, I don't know if I would want a Chief XL personally, but I did finally purchase a Chief before the end of December (basic S30V version), and I love it. It's a much more solid-feeling design than I thought it would be.

Jim

[Naperville]

TBH, I don't know if I would want a Chief XL personally, but I did finally purchase a Chief before the end of December (basic S30V version), and I love it. It's a much more solid-feeling design than I thought it would be.

Jim

I'm missing the Native Chief in S30V in my collection...next month for me. I have all of them so far except for the S30V model. I think I'll buy a 2nd S90V too.