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sal wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:32 pm

Hi Sumdumguy,

Thanx for the kind words. We're still making steel selections.

Hi Ric,

No plans to make it a flipper.

sal

Construction with compression lock, wire clip, and carbon fiber Sounds amazing, thanks Sal!
I would put in a plug for Rex45, Hap40 or M4 as the blade steel.

This is sounding better and better!

I'm wondering if it might be nice in s90v...

Maybe a cf like the original rubicon with a compressionlock and a blade of S90v made in thaichung?

And a maybe there is a possibility for a second budget version made in golden or even the china factory in green g-10 with Bd1 on top of the collecters premium one?

Curly,

We probably would not use S90V coming out of the Chute. S90V is a steel junky's material and we need to try to reach a more general market. Considerations might include, CTS-BD1N, LC200, CPM-S30V, CPM-154, etc. A stainless steel, not too hard to sharpen, takes and holds a good edge.

Hi Apollo,

It' not practical to tool up in more than one place for a model.Tooling is quite expensive and must be amortized over many pieces for sometimes years.

sal

sal wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:15 pm

Curly,

We probably would not use S90V coming out of the Chute. S90V is a steel junky's material and we need to try to reach a more general market. Considerations might include, CTS-BD1N, LC200, CPM-S30V, CPM-154, etc. A stainless steel, not too hard to sharpen, takes and holds a good edge.

Hi Apollo,

It' not practical to tool up in more than one place for a model.Tooling is quite expensive and must be amortized over many pieces for sometimes years.

sal

Thanks for the small lesson Sal. It does however give me a little question about tooling. Is making the tooling for all the spyderco manufactureres the same? or does every factory make there own Tooling? :)

Lc200 sounds good. I never handled a knife with that steel at this point. :)

Each vendor makes their own tooling for a model. They are not easily used by another vendor so moving tooling is rare and difficult. If we do move a model from one vendor to another or one country to another, we usually have to make new tooling. If it's a new model, tooling can be up to $25K depending on where it's made. We've had a few models go over that.

eg; for the SpydeRench, we tooled up in the US, Taiwan and China and still couldn't make the model to our quality standards at a competitive price. Lost our shirts & pants on that one.

sal

sal wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:15 pm

Curly,

We probably would not use S90V coming out of the Chute. S90V is a steel junky's material and we need to try to reach a more general market. Considerations might include, CTS-BD1N, LC200, CPM-S30V, CPM-154, etc. A stainless steel, not too hard to sharpen, takes and holds a good edge.

If it needs to be stainless, I would vote for CPM-S30V or CPM-154. I've never tried LC200. I'm not a fan of CTS-BD1N.

Looking forward to this one! Any of those steels sound great to me.

sal wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:15 pm

Curly,

We probably would not use S90V coming out of the Chute. S90V is a steel junky's material and we need to try to reach a more general market. Considerations might include, CTS-BD1N, LC200, CPM-S30V, CPM-154, etc. A stainless steel, not too hard to sharpen, takes and holds a good edge.

Thanks for the insight, Sal!

I'd be happy with any of those, but I think I'd especially like to see LC200N or s30v.

This is creeping to the top of my "most anticipated" list!

sal wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:26 pm

eg; for the SpydeRench, we tooled up in the US, Taiwan and China and still couldn't make the model to our quality standards at a competitive price. Lost our shirts & pants on that one.
sal

What about the ByrdWrench? I am kicking myself for missing that one.

Quality not there and price too high.

sal

I'd rather not see S30V used. I'd prefer CTS-BD1N or CPM-154 if it has to be stainless. Added bonus to that steel is that hopefully it would keep the price lower. If you were taking requests I'd like CTS-XHP.

Halfneck wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:18 pm

I'd rather not see S30V used. I'd prefer CTS-BD1N or CPM-154 if it has to be stainless. Added bonus to that steel is that hopefully it would keep the price lower. If you were taking requests I'd like CTS-XHP.

Those are good suggestions for stainless.
My preference is still cruwear :) Sharpens relatively easily, no major corrosion issues, tough enough to support thin edges and fine points.

I'm down for S30v or XHP all day. Preferrably XHP.

captnvegtble wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:30 pm

If it needs to be stainless, I would vote for CPM-S30V or CPM-154. I've never tried LC200. I'm not a fan of CTS-BD1N.

Have you tried BD1N? I’m not a fan of BD1, but all accounts of BD1N have been pretty favorable.
I’m really looking forward to trying it. Just need to find one of the ukpk’s that been upgraded.

SF Native wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:24 pm

captnvegtble wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:30 pm

If it needs to be stainless, I would vote for CPM-S30V or CPM-154. I've never tried LC200. I'm not a fan of CTS-BD1N.

Have you tried BD1N? I’m not a fan of BD1, but all accounts of BD1N have been pretty favorable.
I’m really looking forward to trying it. Just need to find one of the ukpk’s that been upgraded.

hmmmm... maybe I'm getting them confused. I'll have to look up BD1N.

sal wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:15 pm

Curly,

We probably would not use S90V coming out of the Chute. S90V is a steel junky's material and we need to try to reach a more general market. Considerations might include, CTS-BD1N, LC200, CPM-S30V, CPM-154, etc. A stainless steel, not too hard to sharpen, takes and holds a good edge.

Hi Apollo,

It' not practical to tool up in more than one place for a model.Tooling is quite expensive and must be amortized over many pieces for sometimes years.

sal

LC200 would be awesome!

Lc200n would be amazing. I find the knives I own in it to be great. The edge holding is plenty sufficient and it doesn't rust.