Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:55 am
me tooSpider bite wrote:I know what I'll be getting for X-mas.
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CF Caly 3.5 with Aogami Super Blue Steel????
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:17 am
In another thread Sal said that it is being produced right now .I think it will be ready sooner than X-mas ,hope to be a summer model :)Spider bite wrote:I know what I'll be getting for X-mas.
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 6:20 am
Sweet! Now I must find a new holiday to buy myself a present.... I know what gift I will be getting for Labor Day/Patriot Day.navajasound wrote:In another thread Sal said that it is being produced right now .I think it will be ready sooner than X-mas ,hope to be a summer model :)
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 1:27 pm
Sorry, but could you link the post? I'm gonna search for it. If I find it I will edit and link it in this post.navajasound wrote:In another thread Sal said that it is being produced right now .I think it will be ready sooner than X-mas ,hope to be a summer model :)
I found it:
Linkdsmegst wrote:Sal,
May I take this moment to inquire about the progress on the Aogami Super Blue Caly3.5? I'm very eagerly waiting for that variant. In fact, I'm holding off on the production version in favor of the Aogami.
sal wrote:Being produced now.
sal
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:36 pm
I've loved the Super Blue mule. It'll be even better in a folding knife for EDC tasks. Can't wait for this one to be released.
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 1:04 pm
I really hope there are enough made for the first run so that i can get one without preordering ! Hope there is enough demand for secondary runs :) And we still don't know if the blade is going to ba damascus .
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:36 pm
I played it safe and went ahead and placed a pre-order. I like the Caly design too much to be left without a Super Blue model.navajasound wrote:I really hope there are enough made for the first run so that i can get one without preordering ! Hope there is enough demand for secondary runs :) And we still don't know if the blade is going to ba damascus .
I haven't heard Sal discuss any damascus version of the Caly 3.5 w/ Super Blue. The mule team didn't have a damascus version nor a laminate version. I'd imagine the folder will sport the same.
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:46 pm
Where did you placed your preorder ? What is the price ?D1omedes wrote:I played it safe and went ahead and placed a pre-order. I like the Caly design too much to be left without a Super Blue model.
I haven't heard Sal discuss any damascus version of the Caly 3.5 w/ Super Blue. The mule team didn't have a damascus version nor a laminate version. I'd imagine the folder will sport the same.
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:50 pm
Im in, I love Super Blue!
I hope they include a tips sheet on how to care for the steel to help it resist rust as ive seen it happen in 12 hours on my Murray Carter kitchen paring knife my dad used and put in the sink.
I hope its done in a FFG or in a way it has a thick spine but a thin grind angle so the great thin edge the steel can take can be taken advantage of.
I hope they include a tips sheet on how to care for the steel to help it resist rust as ive seen it happen in 12 hours on my Murray Carter kitchen paring knife my dad used and put in the sink.
I hope its done in a FFG or in a way it has a thick spine but a thin grind angle so the great thin edge the steel can take can be taken advantage of.
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 4:49 pm
who is taking preorders?
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 7:53 pm
The Caly 3.5 is FFG and has a fairly thick spine but is ground very thin near and above the edge. That's one of the features that makes the Caly line so great.DasFriek wrote:Im in, I love Super Blue!
I hope they include a tips sheet on how to care for the steel to help it resist rust as ive seen it happen in 12 hours on my Murray Carter kitchen paring knife my dad used and put in the sink.
I hope its done in a FFG or in a way it has a thick spine but a thin grind angle so the great thin edge the steel can take can be taken advantage of.
Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 10:02 pm
Im not a person who is into waiting on knives to hit the market, Usually ill find something else and buy it and forget the other. But not this time, Im getting this Caly. The knife should take some amazing angles on the bevel and slice like mad.mongatu wrote:The Caly 3.5 is FFG and has a fairly thick spine but is ground very thin near and above the edge. That's one of the features that makes the Caly line so great.
Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 10:27 pm
who is taking pre orders?
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 3:35 am
This knife is about the closest I will ever come to getting a custom knife from Spyderco. Or, for that matter, a "joe" designed knife. I'm going to need a couple of extra "pre need replacements" for this one in case it turns out to be a one off run, or sprint.
I hope it's around RC 61-62 or so. Too low is a waste, too high will be causing everything from chipping complaints to rusting issues ( more than normal).
The Tungsten containing alloy steels are usually my favorites due to the compromise between edge taking/stability, and good, but not quite vanadium wear resistance.
I tried for years to talk Sal into Vascowear for a sprint. Mostly it was in jest as it's really not practical whatsoever. For the troubles that come with it there sure are better performers in one way or another. It led to 3V, which is a good thing and I keep accumulating more and more knives in that steel. The Tuff will be nice, and I'm looking forward to it.
A Super blue caly 3.5 is about as close as I'll ever get to a perfect knife for me. Similar would be 3V and 52100, or even M2/CPM m4. All are good to excellent edge stability and good to excellent wear resistance.
Super blue heat treated like the mule would be just right for me. Never thought I'd see it in my lifetime. Thanks Sal and the Spyderco crew.
BTW Sal, did you ever get around to making a mule or two out of that cruware I sent?
Regards,
Joe
I hope it's around RC 61-62 or so. Too low is a waste, too high will be causing everything from chipping complaints to rusting issues ( more than normal).
The Tungsten containing alloy steels are usually my favorites due to the compromise between edge taking/stability, and good, but not quite vanadium wear resistance.
I tried for years to talk Sal into Vascowear for a sprint. Mostly it was in jest as it's really not practical whatsoever. For the troubles that come with it there sure are better performers in one way or another. It led to 3V, which is a good thing and I keep accumulating more and more knives in that steel. The Tuff will be nice, and I'm looking forward to it.
A Super blue caly 3.5 is about as close as I'll ever get to a perfect knife for me. Similar would be 3V and 52100, or even M2/CPM m4. All are good to excellent edge stability and good to excellent wear resistance.
Super blue heat treated like the mule would be just right for me. Never thought I'd see it in my lifetime. Thanks Sal and the Spyderco crew.
BTW Sal, did you ever get around to making a mule or two out of that cruware I sent?
Regards,
Joe
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 5:20 am
Thats really cool Joe!
It will be a very special knife, especially for you.
(as well as the rest of us)
I feel the same about the M4 Military.
Looking forward to trying out "your" knife. :D
It will be a very special knife, especially for you.
(as well as the rest of us)
I feel the same about the M4 Military.
Looking forward to trying out "your" knife. :D
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 5:43 am
I might have to start calling it "The Mastiff Caly". :P
I wonder if it has something to do with the demand for knives in M4.
I wonder if it has something to do with the demand for knives in M4.
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:44 am
What uses would super blue be ideal for and where did the name for this steel come from?
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:08 am
Its ideal for anything that isnt constantly keeping the blade wet, It will rust quickly if not kept wiped off and dry.
The name comes from the color of the labels that Hitachi puts on the rolls of steel, Initially Super Blue was just known as "Blue" steel. They have a "White" steel which is almost identical but with a few slight changes in composition, But you don't hear much about that steel outside of Japan and in kitchen knives and stuff Murray Carter makes.
These steels have very small carbides which allow for fine edges, But its bigger point is it can be hardened to very high numbers and most likley higher than what Spyderco will go as you risk chipping the higher you go. Its very easy to sharpen, Yet holds an edge about as good as ANY steel on the market.
But one thing that give it these great properties is that it is a carbon steel, Not stainless steel. So much care has to be given to maintenance to make sure rust and corrosion doesn't set in.
This is why i hope Spyderco includes a tip sheet on how to maintain the blade steel or i feel alot of people are gonna be mad 3 weeks after they buy their knives and don't wipe it dry once and have a rusted knife.
Also forget a shiny blade, Carbon steel will patina which gives it a dull discolored look which is good as that helps retard rust also.
So imo this knife isn't for 80% of the knife carrying public, But that my opinion.
But ill take 2 please! :)
The name comes from the color of the labels that Hitachi puts on the rolls of steel, Initially Super Blue was just known as "Blue" steel. They have a "White" steel which is almost identical but with a few slight changes in composition, But you don't hear much about that steel outside of Japan and in kitchen knives and stuff Murray Carter makes.
These steels have very small carbides which allow for fine edges, But its bigger point is it can be hardened to very high numbers and most likley higher than what Spyderco will go as you risk chipping the higher you go. Its very easy to sharpen, Yet holds an edge about as good as ANY steel on the market.
But one thing that give it these great properties is that it is a carbon steel, Not stainless steel. So much care has to be given to maintenance to make sure rust and corrosion doesn't set in.
This is why i hope Spyderco includes a tip sheet on how to maintain the blade steel or i feel alot of people are gonna be mad 3 weeks after they buy their knives and don't wipe it dry once and have a rusted knife.
Also forget a shiny blade, Carbon steel will patina which gives it a dull discolored look which is good as that helps retard rust also.
So imo this knife isn't for 80% of the knife carrying public, But that my opinion.
But ill take 2 please! :)
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 3:53 pm
Hi Joe,The Mastiff wrote: I tried for years to talk Sal into Vascowear for a sprint. Mostly it was in jest as it's really not practical whatsoever. For the troubles that come with it there sure are better performers in one way or another. It led to 3V, which is a good thing and I keep accumulating more and more knives in that steel. The Tuff will be nice, and I'm looking forward to it.
BTW Sal, did you ever get around to making a mule or two out of that cruware I sent?
Thanx much for the kind words. Actually we did some testing and our Cruware Mule Team is in process now.
sal
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 4:09 pm
Excellent summary about Blue steel. IIRC, I believe Super Blue has some added components that make it slightly more corrosion resistant than regular Blue 1 or 2, but it still will patina (a good thing) and rust pretty fast if not wiped off pretty quickly after being wet, as you pointed out.DasFriek wrote:Its ideal for anything that isnt constantly keeping the blade wet, It will rust quickly if not kept wiped off and dry.
The name comes from the color of the labels that Hitachi puts on the rolls of steel, Initially Super Blue was just known as "Blue" steel. They have a "White" steel which is almost identical but with a few slight changes in composition, But you don't hear much about that steel outside of Japan and in kitchen knives and stuff Murray Carter makes.
These steels have very small carbides which allow for fine edges, But its bigger point is it can be hardened to very high numbers and most likley higher than what Spyderco will go as you risk chipping the higher you go. Its very easy to sharpen, Yet holds an edge about as good as ANY steel on the market.
But one thing that give it these great properties is that it is a carbon steel, Not stainless steel. So much care has to be given to maintenance to make sure rust and corrosion doesn't set in.
This is why i hope Spyderco includes a tip sheet on how to maintain the blade steel or i feel alot of people are gonna be mad 3 weeks after they buy their knives and don't wipe it dry once and have a rusted knife.
Also forget a shiny blade, Carbon steel will patina which gives it a dull discolored look which is good as that helps retard rust also.
So imo this knife isn't for 80% of the knife carrying public, But that my opinion.
But ill take 2 please! :)
I have some Blue (not "Super" Blue) and White steel kitchen knives. They are fantastic in how easy they are to sharpen and how sharp they can get.
I agree that some instructions on how to care for the steel should be included with the Super Blue Caly 3.5.
I'll definitely take 1 (and depending on finances might take two too). :)