Information on Manix 2 G-10 FFG

[jsveiga]

Hello guys,

I bought a Manix 2 G-10 FFG (not the XL) last month, and now while browsing the 2014 catalog I noticed it says this knife should have skeletonized liners. Mine has "integral" liners.

Can owners of this same model let me know if the liners are skeletonized or not?

I'm wondering if it is an error in the catalog, or if mine got "bad" liners.

Thanks!

[sharpguitarist]

Hey js,
What do you mean by "integral"?
Later,
Don

[jsveiga]

HI, Don,
They are not skeletonized; the liners have no weight relief holes. Couldn't find a word for "non-skeletonized"...
Thanks,

[_centurio_]

You might have an older model with a translucent lock release button? I', not sure...

[mikeh99]

I have an older translucent lock release model and the liners are not skeletonized.

[jsveiga]

"older"? Aw! I got it in the Spyderco store in Golden on December 18th! The last place I'd expect to get an outdated one.

Yes, it has the translucent lock cage.

Do you guys mean the "newer" model, with the black cage, is skeletonized?

If so, this was my most frustrating trip to the USA, "knifewise": I had ordered a Techno, a Tuff, and a Chaparral online to be delivered to the hotel, but the hotel "lost" the Tuff and the Chaparral.

So on top of that, I bought a brand new "old" version of the Manix2?

EDIT: NOTE: I'm talking about the **FFG** G-10 Manix 2! This wasn't even in the 2013 catalog. The lady in the store said it was a new model, just out of production. How can mine be "old" already?
Aren't you talking about the saber ground one?
I'm not talking about the XL either (I know the older Manix 2 XL wasn't skeletonized, and the new is).

PS: Going to the store made my trip MUCH less frustrating "knifewise": Very nice people, and we got to turn the "wheel of fortune" (my son did), where we got a Spyderco Bug as a Christmas gift!

[OldSarSwmr]

Patented by Spyderco, the Manix2 has a Ball Bearing Lock. It's a hardened free-floating ball bearing contained in a custom hi-tech polymer cage. The round ball bearing allows the lock to self adjust across a large surface, smoothly and consistently locking-up with solid confidence. Evolving over time, the Ball Bearing Lock's strength withstands hard work with a secure, versatile and comfortable grip. Ergonomics are peerless in this design. The blade is*Crucible CPM S30V and hollow-ground with aggressive thumb serrations (jimping) above a super sized 14mm Spyderco Round Hole. The Jimping doesn't stop there. With full steel liners the scales have jimping that extends beyond the G-10 handle scales scalloping areas of the handle's perimeter. This one is not slipping out of your hand and works well with gloves on! The liners pull double purpose by adding rigidly and lightweight strength to the handle. A three-screw clip is left/right-hand carry, positioned for comfort and deep pocket carry. The knife also has a large lanyard pipe to protect various types of cords or thongs.

This is the description from Spyderco's website. It says "full steel liners", so I'm not sure if there are both types floating around out there?

[Liquid Cobra]

You are the first person I've heard of getting their hands on one of the new ffg manix's. It's hard to say what might be going on here. The catalog says drilled, but the catalog has been wrong before.

So what about the other two knives? Did you get reparations for them losing your stuff?

[jsveiga]

Hi Dan,

The 2014 catalog (printed and pdf) says "Full skeletonized stainless steel liners give the G-10-handled Manix2 exceptional strength and heft."

http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/2014_Sp ... _Guide.pdf page 18

Mine is not skeletonized, and for the reasons I mentioned above, I can't believe it is an "old" version.

Anyone out there has a **FFG** Manix 2 (not the XL) with skeletonized liners?

If not, it was just an error in the catalog, and I can sleep in peace :p

If yes, and they were supposed to be skeletonized, then I was realy unlucky with my knife purchases in this trip

Joao

[jsveiga]

So what about the other two knives? Did you get reparations for them losing your stuff?

Thank you for asking; long sad story follows...

Unfortunately not quite. I live in Brazil, so only when I visit the USA can I order knives (and a lot of other stuff) online - import taxes to Brazil are abusive, but you can hand carry personal use goods back, up to 500USD/person without taxes. So I usually call one of the hotels I'll be staying to ask if I can have orders delivered there. This time it was no different, and they said I could.

Out of 8 packages they received, they could not find 3: A Tuff from Amazon, a Chaparral CF from Blade HQ, and a pack of 10 "coin" batteries from an Amazon partner. They never denied having received them (and the delivery notice for the Tuff even included the name of one of their employees). They said the packages were either misplaced or returned because someone thought they were sitting there for too long (15 days before my arrival - the packages did include my reservation number!).

While I still was there (stayed 3 nights in Denver), I got an email from the batteries seller saying they got the batteries back (I replied saying I didn't even care for a refund; the shipping was more expensive than the batteries anyway). So I still had (have?) the hopes that they had also returned the Tuff and Chaparral (I called Blade HQ from there, but they still hadn't got anything back by then, but would keep an eye on it).

The hotel manager offered to refund me for 2 nights for the trouble (would be about 1/3 of my loss), but as the stay had been prepaid through Expedia Brazil, that wasn't an option (we called Expedia Brazil). So he got permission from his boss to give me 50 bucks cash (better than nothing), and I in return signed a "will not sue you".

Because I did get the email from the returned batteries, I assumed there was a chance they had also returned the knives, so although I lost my once-a-year opportunity to pay online prices for Spyderco knives, I was in the hopes the knives would eventually arrive back at Amazon/Blade HQ and I'd be refunded.

No such luck so far

[Liquid Cobra]

That really sucks man. 50 bucks for losing 400 or so in knives? I hope one of their employees isn't the owner of some new really nice knives.

[jsveiga]

You are the first person I've heard of getting their hands on one of the new ffg manix's.

Ops, I hadn't realized that. So I believe the polite thing to do is to post some pics and impressions, right?
http://www.spyderco.com/forums/showthre ... s-and-pics

Best regards,
Joao

[jsveiga]

That really sucks man. 50 bucks for losing 400 or so in knives? I hope one of their employees isn't the owner of some new really nice knives.

Me too! One of the packages was my son's Galaxy Note 3 (500USD hand-carry limit not applied for up to one cell phone per person...), so we were REALLY thankful that one wasn't lost!

Thank you for your sympathy :o
I lost 229 for the Tuff and 112 for the Chaparral They're on my wishlist for the next trip...

[jabba359]

Mine has "integral" liners.

Interesting. Some of the earlier versions had the solid liners, but anything recent should be skeletonized. If the weight doesn't bother you, then I wouldn't worry about it and just enjoy the knife. You should be able to determine the manufacture date by looking at the end of the box. Besides the model name and a bar code, there should be two letters. I'd assume a new model would likely have a JM, KM, or LM (for Oct 2013, Nov 2013, or Dec 2013).

I wish I could make it down to Brazil for the World Cup this year. I lived in the Rio Grande do Sul for a few years and am a huge soccer fan (Gremio!). I hope you guys win it.

[jsveiga]

Interesting. Some of the earlier versions had the solid liners, but anything recent should be skeletonized. If the weight doesn't bother you, then I wouldn't worry about it and just enjoy the knife. You should be able to determine the manufacture date by looking at the end of the box. Besides the model name and a bar code, there should be two letters. I'd assume a new model would likely have a JM, KM, or LM (for Oct 2013, Nov 2013, or Dec 2013).

I left the box in Denver :o
But again, the FFG is supposed to be a brand new version :confused:

[_centurio_]

awww fail of mine, thought you mean the xl. don't know about the normal version.

[Cameron]

The 2014 Manix2 with Full Flat Grind does not have the skeletonized liners. Here is the DLC version I bought just a couple of weeks ago. I believe the 2014 catalog simply has a misprint, giving some of the description about the XL model in the non XL page.


The 2014 Manix2 XL does have skeletonized liners.


The only Manix2 knives I have heard of with skeletonized liners are the various Sprint Runs, like this one, which I think is about perfect for an EDC knife.

[Diamondback]

I can confirm the XL Manix has skeletonized liners, but the Manix 2 does not. They both weigh about the same. I'm sure there is a reason why the Manix 2 has full liners, but the logic escapes me.

[Cameron]

I'm sure there is a reason why the Manix 2 has full liners, but the logic escapes me.

Cost.

[Diamondback]

Cost.

...Perhaps, but even $25 Byrd's have milled liners so cost can't be too much of a factor. Maybe it's a weight/balance ratio consideration.