Does the Thumb Hole weaken the steel?

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bengaiser wrote:I can just imagine someone excavating these in a few thousand years (would the concrete preserve whats inside?). Maybe they should have been marked as seconds just in case they try to resell them ;)

On a (slightly) more serious note, that sounds expensive, doesn't the dump charge by weight?
Even at today's prices, I'll bet the gate fee to dump a run of Rescues entombed in concrete would be under a C-note. Folding knives are small things. Compared to the value of those knives, the disposal cost is negligible.
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bengaiser wrote:I can just imagine someone excavating these in a few thousand years (would the concrete preserve whats inside?). Maybe they should have been marked as seconds just in case they try to resell them ;)

On a (slightly) more serious note, that sounds expensive, doesn't the dump charge by weight?
Concrete in no way would protect them, but I like the idea.
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eric m. wrote:JNewell, isn't that why they haven't found Jimmy Hoffa yet?
Not sure. Out here in the land of Whitey Bulger this stuff strikes a very real chord. :( ;)
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Part of me thinks Sal was being facetious (like joking) when he said that. I can fully understand scrapping all the blades because they were faulty, but there was nothing wrong with the handles so it would seem unnecessary and wasteful to throw those away.
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Hi Jay,

Labor costs to take the knives apart to preserve and ship parts back to Seki was better spent making new knives.

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Re: Does the Thumb Hole weaken the steel?

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From a common sense point of view, one should never use a folding knife for prying or batoning. Just like you shouldn't use the butt of a pistol as a hammer. It's theoretically possible, but actually is a very stupid idea. Use your most valuable EDC tool, your intelligence, to improvise a sensible solution. Regarding the spyderhole: if it weakened the blade to the point of compromising its purpose then I don't think spyderco would enjoy the popularity it has enjoyed for some decades. Plenty of time for real world use to prove the design.
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Necrobump, very nice. ;) Welcome to the forum. :)
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Using my somewhat limited common sense......if this was any type of issue, wouldn't we be seeing thousands of pics with broken blades at the hole??
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If I need a pry bar or a chisel, I go get one out of the tool crib and save my folding knives for less strenuous efforts. If I need a fighting knife, I'd choose a fixed blade knife with a hilt guard and 6 inches, or more, of blade length. Of course, in a real emergency, anything remotely useful gets put into service for the task immediately at hand.

With a bit of thoughtful planning, you should never find yourself in the position of needing to hammer your pocket knife into a tree to make it into a climbing spike.
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Of all the threads you could necro, this one didn't need to be started in the first place.
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One of the things I have noticed is if you search on Google for something it can bring up ancient threads. To the google searcher the thread seems fresh. Just saying.
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Sorry, didn't see that it was old. I didn't find it on google, either. I've heard this critique of Spyderco knives before (from people who would seem to know better), and his particular question just sets me off, is all.
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Re: Does the Thumb Hole weaken the steel?

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Notary Sojak wrote:If I need a pry bar or a chisel, I go get one out of the tool crib and save my folding knives for less strenuous efforts. If I need a fighting knife, I'd choose a fixed blade knife with a hilt guard and 6 inches, or more, of blade length. Of course, in a real emergency, anything remotely useful gets put into service for the task immediately at hand.

With a bit of thoughtful planning, you should never find yourself in the position of needing to hammer your pocket knife into a tree to make it into a climbing spike.
good point it was not designed for that kind of stress in a sideways force it is made to cut not to pry but in the unfortunate situation that you do find your self in a position where you have to use the knife in that way there is a possibility that it will snap (any blade regardless if it has a spider hole) and i think the spider hole is not a thing that will weaken the blade to the point where it's a issue.
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Re: Does the Thumb Hole weaken the steel?

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obviously it is weaker than a solid blade but the circle is inherently strong as the stress is equally distributed along the entire circle instead of a corner. and even though it is slightly weaker it is so miniscule that you would never notice it.
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