some manix 2 sprint runs

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some manix 2 sprint runs

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I have no idea if it is ok to post links, but cutlery shoppe has several discontinued rare Manix 2's...but be prepared to shell out. CTS-XHP, s90v, ect. Good luck!
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Thanks for the notice, but those are so expensive I had to pass. I appreciate the notice though
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Whew that's steep. A little steeper than I was expecting from CS. But demand is demand.
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There are several other one of a kind discontinued models if you closely review ALL of the Spyderco listings (hint: some are listed with an image vs. no image available) :) at a price... :eek:
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Ouch, talk about a gouging...
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Jeff at Cutlery Shoppe has been more than generous to the Spyderco fan community over the years. He has had the best, or nearly the best, pricing on most items for quite awhile. The prices on these sprints are not far off market value (i.e. via E-bay) from what I can tell (although they are not cheap, I realize). It pains me to think that folks think that Jeff is gouging. He has taken it in the shorts more times than most people realize to provide great deals and good service.

Jeff could have sold the orange Manix 2 exclusive for much more than he did. The secondary market brought quite a bit more than he originally sold them for, as an example.
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mikerestivo wrote:Jeff at Cutlery Shoppe has been more than generous to the Spyderco fan community over the years. He has had the best, or nearly the best, pricing on most items for quite awhile. The prices on these sprints are not far off market value (i.e. via E-bay) from what I can tell (although they are not cheap, I realize). It pains me to think that folks think that Jeff is gouging. He has taken it in the shorts more times than most people realize to provide great deals and good service.

Jeff could have sold the orange Manix 2 exclusive for much more than he did. The secondary market brought quite a bit more than he originally sold them for, as an example.
I believe this is as well as I could put it. These could be from Jeff's personal collection and everyone has the chance to not buy them. I wish I could afford some of them right now.
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Everyone, don't buy them, and eventually the prices will go down. Its simple supply and demand.
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mikerestivo wrote:Jeff at Cutlery Shoppe has been more than generous to the Spyderco fan community over the years. He has had the best, or nearly the best, pricing on most items for quite awhile. The prices on these sprints are not far off market value (i.e. via E-bay) from what I can tell (although they are not cheap, I realize). It pains me to think that folks think that Jeff is gouging. He has taken it in the shorts more times than most people realize to provide great deals and good service.

Jeff could have sold the orange Manix 2 exclusive for much more than he did. The secondary market brought quite a bit more than he originally sold them for, as an example.
I agree 100%, Jeff is VERY fair with his pricing, and if you did buy any of these, you would be absolutely sure of getting NIB rather than that nagging feeling of what am I getting on the secondary market. The Blue Manix2 is gone and good luck finding a Manix2 CF S90V!!
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mikerestivo wrote:Jeff at Cutlery Shoppe has been more than generous to the Spyderco fan community over the years. He has had the best, or nearly the best, pricing on most items for quite awhile. The prices on these sprints are not far off market value (i.e. via E-bay) from what I can tell (although they are not cheap, I realize). It pains me to think that folks think that Jeff is gouging. He has taken it in the shorts more times than most people realize to provide great deals and good service.

Jeff could have sold the orange Manix 2 exclusive for much more than he did. The secondary market brought quite a bit more than he originally sold them for, as an example.
Right, but considering that those list prices are quite over the initial MSRP of those production blades. I consider that a gouging regardless of what secondary "ebay" prices are. FWIW eBay has significantly skewed the market for limited production blades. And the majority of any profit goes to eBay... and PayPal (owned by eBay.) That is unless they are power sellers and their selling fees are lowered simple because eBay is already getting their coin from many---multiple transactions. If sellers aren't "Power Sellers" then they will in turn raise their prices (i.e. market) just to make up for their selling fee losses.

Gotta pay to play, right?

Anyway, there are plenty of people out there willing to pay well over the asking prices listed on his site; and I consider that a generous offer on his behalf.
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Jeff is as fair as there is anywhere, bar none. His prices have historically been the best
or near the best consistently. He has some rare knives that are either his personal knives
or he has just picked them up from somewhere, or found in a box in storage, (wouldn't
that be sweet.)

It's funny that anyone would consider listing these knive at any price to be gouging. I am
as critical as any about buying sprints and reselling at an increase, but this is not the case.
This is a chance for someone to pick up a possible grail that they missed, sometimes these
chances don't show up. The prices are too high for me for those particular knives, but might
not be to someone else.

If it is too high, don't buy.
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as the OP, I want it on record that I never mentioned gouging. I buy all my Spydercos from Jeff, including the Goddard I just got for $69 with free shipping. That was the very best price anywhere. I got a Superleaf for $97 shipped and Jeff routinely has E4/D4 for the lowest price on line. He also took back the Manix 2 XL I ordered when I changed my mind after seeing it's size. He is good folk.
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Agreed, and the free shipping code is more than generous. I love me some sprint runs, but for $400 I'll refill my acetylene tank and use that to do the cutting :)
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Yup, I saw those and figured that it is from his personal stash. I understand that he has a store, but he's selling long disco'd rare and sought after knives: Do you really expect him to sell it at original prices? I suppose in the end, one can insist that it is gouging, but the term just doesn't match Jeff's reputation in my eyes...

CS is the first place I go to buy Spydercos straight up. He has the best prices most of the time and that goes for a few other brands he sells also... The free shipping is indeed very generous. Another thing, I've had to RMA a knife back to him and he sent me a replacement with a prepaid envelope to return the faulty knife. His communication through the years and customer service is top notch. He's good friends with Sal also I recall him telling me in an email.

Big vote of confidence for Jeff and Cutlery Shoppe right here... And yeah I got that Goddard for $69 shipped also.
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Cutlery Shoppe has always been really awesome to deal with... and if I remember correctly you get a lollipop in every box! :) (It is the little things sometimes!)
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MachSchnell wrote:Right, but considering that those list prices are quite over the initial MSRP of those production blades. I consider that a gouging regardless of what secondary "ebay" prices are. FWIW eBay has significantly skewed the market for limited production blades. And the majority of any profit goes to eBay... and PayPal (owned by eBay.) That is unless they are power sellers and their selling fees are lowered simple because eBay is already getting their coin from many---multiple transactions. If sellers aren't "Power Sellers" then they will in turn raise their prices (i.e. market) just to make up for their selling fee losses.

Gotta pay to play, right?

Anyway, there are plenty of people out there willing to pay well over the asking prices listed on his site; and I consider that a generous offer on his behalf.
I don't understand how you consider this gouging. These are discontinued items and as such they are no longer available, and have not been for years, in some cases. As xceptnl said, these are probably knives from Jeff's personal collection. If he is charging what the market bears, how is it gouging? An item is "worth" what the market says it's worth, right? And the scarcity of these items, along with demand, have driven up the value. In a way, I think you are saying that if I have a mint-condition, showroom new, Model-T Ford, I am gouging by selling it for what it's worth now versus original MSRP.

When I reference E-bay I am not referring to buy-it-now listings, but auctions. Fees aside (which agreed, stink), auctions are the purest form of what an item is worth because we (the buyers) determine the price. A lot of the buy-it-now prices are crazy high.

The Manix 2 sprints and others listed at CS are more than I would be willing to pay, but I as noted, I feel compelled to defend Jeff versus charges of gouging. Based on his history, he has done more for the Spyderco fan base than most of us combined.
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Thank You for the great info Twinboysdad! I hope it remains something for the end of the month cause I spent my "monthknifebudget"..
For me the prices are ok: in Italy those knives are impossible to find, and the last time I saw a CF para on Ebay was at 550$, as I said in this forum maybe a year ago.
So, don't buy those knives (please :p ) !!!
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I remember haggling with a dealer over a truck that was 10 years old but was in brand new condition and only had 28k miles on it. When I pointed out that he had it price a couple grand over the listed blue book value and that I thought his asking price was high he basically said "Go find another one with this amount of miles in this condition for that price. Good luck." Same thing with these rare, discontinued knives; if you think the price is too high then go find another one in brand new condition for a lower price and good luck.
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http://www.cutleryshoppe.com/para-milit ... usive.aspx

Jeff is GIVING away an orange Para sprint that he could easily sel for a mark up...
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twinboysdad wrote:http://www.cutleryshoppe.com/para-milit ... usive.aspx

Jeff is GIVING away an orange Para sprint that he could easily sel for a mark up...
I want it super bad (orange is my favorite color) but am I wrong to be hesitant to enter my password into a tab that wants access to my friend list? I do not want to spam anyone.
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