CPM M4 best knife steel......yet???

[ENFORCER] · #21

chuck_roxas45 wrote:Yah? Are you forgetting M390 or 20CP or S90V for a minute there?

Sorry, I meant in those group of 3.

154CPF/S35VN/S30V

chuck_roxas45 · #22

'[ENFORCER wrote:]Sorry, I meant in those group of 3.

154CPF/S35VN/S30V

Ok, gotcha.

Greaser · #23

I haven't been on this forum for very long, but in that short time it has become less appealing to read. I understand it's a knife forum and there's a need to discuss the science behind steel, but man....it seems like the internet police show up right away and try to beat everyone down with facts and the science of metallurgy. Not very fun.

chuck_roxas45 · #24

Greaser wrote:I haven't been on this forum for very long, but in that short time it has become less appealing to read. I understand it's a knife forum and there's a need to discuss the science behind steel, but man....it seems like the internet police show up right away and try to beat everyone down with facts and the science of metallurgy. Not very fun.

Yeh, right so instead of facts and metallurgy, we should focus on misconceptions and wrong info? :p

Would that be more fun?

I am here as a seeker of information and of FACTS about steels and knives.

[ENFORCER] · #25

chuck_roxas45 wrote:Yeh, right so instead of facts and metallurgy, we should focus on misconceptions and wrong info? :p

You just proved his point...

Greaser wrote:I haven't been on this forum for very long, but in that short time it has become less appealing to read. I understand it's a knife forum and there's a need to discuss the science behind steel, but man....it seems like the internet police show up right away and try to beat everyone down with facts and the science of metallurgy. Not very fun.

I completely agree, this is a knife community, not a lawyer vs lawyer forum.

xceptnl · #26

I live in VA and the climate here can be a bit humid most of the year. That being said, I have not noticed any serious issues with either of my CPM-M4 knives (AIR or GB) as well as little or no problem with Superblue (Caly 3.5) . I can see that carrying in the pocket and exerting yourself to create a sweaty environmment could cause these corrosion issues. I am usuall very attentive to my blades and don't even like to let my stainless knives get put away without a good cleaning. My brother is the polar opposite. He uses his blade and puts it away without a care until the next time he needs it and I have seen large rust spots on his 8Cr13MoV (Tenacious). I suppose it will come down to the amount of care you show your blades. Regarding the easy of sharpening, I have become addicted to carbon steels again for this reason.

chuck_roxas45 · #27

'[ENFORCER wrote:]You just proved his point...

I completely agree, this is a knife community, not a lawyer vs lawyer forum.

I guess the people who want to spread wrong info would tend to say that...

How about we start a thread in off topic about Facts vs. Wrong info and stop hijacking this thread?

Greaser · #28

chuck_roxas45 wrote:Yeh, right so instead of facts and metallurgy, we should focus on misconceptions and wrong info? :p

Science and facts are great, but this isn't a text book it's an internet forum for general discussion about Spyderco knives. I'm not saying opinion should take precedence over fact, but people should be allowed to share an opinion without being shouted down.

Also, there's more than one way to correct misconceptions and wrong information...

[ENFORCER] · #29

chuck_roxas45 wrote:I guess the people who want to spread wrong info would tend to say that...

How about we start a thread in off topic about Facts vs. Wrong info and stop hijacking this thread?

I so wanna infract your *** right now for being like that...
How about NO.

chuck_roxas45 · #30

xceptnl wrote:I live in VA and the climate here can be a bit humid most of the year. That being said, I have not noticed any serious issues with either of my CPM-M4 knives (AIR or GB) as well as little or no problem with Superblue (Caly 3.5) . I can see that carrying in the pocket and exerting yourself to create a sweaty environmment could cause these corrosion issues. I am usuall very attentive to my blades and don't even like to let my stainless knives get put away without a good cleaning. My brother is the polar opposite. He uses his blade and puts it away without a care until the next time he needs it and I have seen large rust spots on his 8Cr13MoV (Tenacious). I suppose it will come down to the amount of care you show your blades. Regarding the easy of sharpening, I have become addicted to carbon steels again for this reason.

My GB is well used as a work knife(it was my primary folder when we were constructing my house) and it really didn't get the care it deserved. I has quite a few rust spots but it's still one of my best performing knives.

xceptnl · #31

chuck_roxas45 wrote:My GB is well used as a work knife(it was my primary folder when we were constructing my house) and it really didn't get the care it deserved. I has quite a few rust spots but it's still one of my best performing knives.

Chuck,

Is that a balsa strop in the background?

Evil D · #32

Greaser wrote:I haven't been on this forum for very long, but in that short time it has become less appealing to read. I understand it's a knife forum and there's a need to discuss the science behind steel, but man....it seems like the internet police show up right away and try to beat everyone down with facts and the science of metallurgy. Not very fun.

Gonna have to agree with Chuck on this one. You have to understand that what we happens even more than "internet policing" is people with the wrong facts and wrong info spreading it around to people who would believe it as fact if someone didn't step in and set them straight. There are some forums where that kind of behavior can be annoying, but when you're dealing with right vs. incorrect information, I'll take the policing over ignorance any day. Plus, if you read enough you just might learn something.

kbuzbee · #33

chuck_roxas45 wrote:Yah? Are you forgetting M390 or 20CP or S90V for a minute there?

You're probably right, Chuck. I own two of those three, but I haven't used either enough to really have much of an opinion. Sad, because I really like both knives, but when I carry a Manix, I carry M4 not S90V and I never carry any of my PM2s.... sigh

Still need something in M390 at some point.

Ken

Blerv · #34

I'm with CarbonfiberNut, it's tough to define "best" without prioritizing features. Although, without taking corrosion into consideration M4 is pretty awesome and when Spyderco uses it the price bracket isn't insane. Relatively hard/strong, tough, easy enough to sharpen, etc.

As for [ENFORCER], while I can't agree with a thing he's said I do appreciate his use of brackets. I adore punctuation.

xceptnl · #35

Sidebar: Chuck, what pocket do you carry that GB in?

chuck_roxas45 · #36

xceptnl wrote:Chuck,

Is that a balsa strop in the background?

Sorry no, just a regular wood mounted leather strop loaded with 14u diamond paste.

xceptnl wrote:Sidebar: Chuck, what pocket do you carry that GB in?

You're observant. :D

I carry it left front pocket.

chuck_roxas45 · #37

kbuzbee wrote:You're probably right, Chuck. I own two of those three, but I haven't used either enough to really have much of an opinion. Sad, because I really like both knives, but when I carry a Manix, I carry M4 not S90V and I never carry any of my PM2s.... sigh Still need something in M390 at some point.

Ken

I really like M390 since it's a stainless that most resembles M4 for me. Easy to sharpen but with magic wear resistance. :)

[ENFORCER] · #38

Blerv wrote:I'm with CarbonfiberNut, it's tough to define "best" without prioritizing features. Although, without taking corrosion into consideration M4 is pretty awesome and when Spyderco uses it the price bracket isn't insane. Relatively hard/strong, tough, easy enough to sharpen, etc.

As for [ENFORCER], while I can't agree with a thing he's said I do appreciate his use of brackets. I adore punctuation.

Most people disagree with me, but usually it just proves they're wrong.
Is there something you find funny with my username?

xceptnl · #39

chuck_roxas45 wrote:Sorry no, just a regular wood mounted leather strop loaded with 14u diamond paste.

I missed the transition to the loaded area from the grain of the wood. So apparently I am not as observant as I would like ot be.

chuck_roxas45 wrote:I carry it left front pocket.

I am just used to seeing smaller knives in FL pockets. I just knew you were right handed so I assumed you had a Military on your right side.

chuck_roxas45 · #40

xceptnl wrote:I missed the transition to the loaded area from the grain of the wood. So apparently I am not as observant as I would like ot be.

The knife covers the transition.

xceptnl wrote:I am just used to seeing smaller knives in FL pockets. I just knew you were right handed so I assumed you had a Military on your right side.

Haha, I got a good deal on an seconds M390 Millie. It's in my RFP. :D