The Making of a CNC'd Endura Scale...

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The Making of a CNC'd Endura Scale...

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I've been tasked with creating machining files for the Endura model... a knife I was not familiar with. Working strictly from the provided scales (both the G10 and the FRN Enduras) I've scanned and measured all the necessary data points to input into my CAD application.

The first image is a screen shot of a CAD output having 6 sepearate machining operations.

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Image 2 is a PREVIEW image of the first operation. Creation of all the penetrating holes...

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Image 3... PREVIEW image of the second operation. Creation of all required pockets for holes...

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Image 4... PREVIEW image of the third operation. A V-carve relief operation which eases edging...

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Image 5... PREVIEW image of the forth operation. Machining of the ANSO texturing...

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The sixth image is the result of the profiling operation.

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This seventh image shows the scales with the waste material removed...

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And the eighth is a perspective PREVIEW of the machined scales...

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This last image is a photorealistic PREVIEW of how the Endura will look when finished...

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Machining will commence this week... waiting on an Alpha Knife material delivery. The chosen G10 color is layered toxic green & black.

More as it happens...
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very cool. i bet that combo color will look sweet.
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I assume you are using a G-10 Endura as your base.

The main difference between the FRN and the G-10 models is that the FRN Endura has nested liners for which you'd also need cuts on the opposite side of the scales.

The G-10 Endura has flat liners (with holes), and should work with what you have pictured.


Thanks for sharing, I hope it goes smoothly, and I look forward to more progress pictures.
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That is very sweet lookin'!!! Please post pics when you are complete.

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Donut wrote:I assume you are using a G-10 Endura as your base.

The main difference between the FRN and the G-10 models is that the FRN Endura has nested liners for which you'd also need cuts on the opposite side of the scales.

The G-10 Endura has flat liners (with holes), and should work with what you have pictured.


Thanks for sharing, I hope it goes smoothly, and I look forward to more progress pictures.
I actually have the G10 and the FRN 4 here and are working on both. The requirement for double sided machining with the FRN Endura does force a thicker G10 into the equation. Basically I'll be adding the liner pocket depth to the scale blank thickness I end up using on the G10 Endura to arrive at my FRN material thickness. Customer has stated that a slightly thicker end product is not an issue.

Absolutely... pics will follow...
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There are some knife modders out there who take the easy way out when dealing with nested liners... and use a liner on the scales.

Say, imagine a 1mm thick piece of G-10 where all you have to do is trace and cut out where the liner is... then sandwich it together when putting the knife back together. Plus it is not bad looking.
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Donut wrote:There are some knife modders out there who take the easy way out when dealing with nested liners... and use a liner on the scales.

Say, imagine a 1mm thick piece of G-10 where all you have to do is trace and cut out where the liner is... then sandwich it together when putting the knife back together. Plus it is not bad looking.
I get what you're saying... a complimentary or contrasting liner sheet traced, cutout and secured between the scale sheet & stainless VS doing a double sided machining and the need for the indexing jigs. I'll file that away as PLAN B. I'm certain the colored liners will be a request from many!

Thanks for that tip...
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The toxic green and black layered G10 arrived from Alpha Knife so I ran the machining files for the G10 Endura scales. The knife's owner wanted a texture pattern that would really display the color layered G10. He chose the small Anso pattern for that.

The machining went flawlessly! I can now include these G10 Endura files in my small but growing shop portfolio.

Here's some pics...

This is the G10 coupon immediately upon stopping the machine...
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I test fit the just machined scale on a FRN Endura frame... didn't have the G10 frame at the shop...
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After applying finish on the scale I just set the scale on the frame... no hardware... and took a couple pics...
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Here's the finished scales ready for shipping...
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your killing me...pics!!!! lol
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Yeah... pulled a Homer Simpson with the pics... DOH...!!!

I edited and attached...! Enjoy!
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That looks brilliant.
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sweet, nice job.
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Wow, sweet scales!
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BOOMER52 wrote: The first image is a screen shot of a CAD output having 6 sepearate machining operations.
Nice job. I am wondering how log does it take to make a pair of scales considering 6 separate operations
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WOW! That looks awesome!!!

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Beautiful!
Very nice work!
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Nice Scales. CNC does what you tell to do.
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How sharp/high are the ridges on those scales? Does it feel like the PPT? Are there any other patterns that you have, maybe some dimples, like on the tuff. It be really cool if you could put the :spyder: symbol instead of the simple circle dimples but I am guessing that you would need permission. Who knows maybe spyderco will do that on some of their stainless steel handled knives.
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