I posted a poll with three knives that I was going to choose from. I use Amazon as my knife dealer because I get tons of gift cards for Christmas, birthdays, etc, as well as the fact that they generally have the lowest prices. I need your advice, some not so good changers were made to the knives' amazon listings and I need some suggestions as to what will happen in the near future.
Fluted Titanium Military: went from $359 to UNAVAILABLE (they say they may get it back in.)
G10 Military: went from $120 to $133
Navaja: went from $126 to $140
If anyone knows how Amazon's pricing works or other ways I can get one of these knives, please let me know. (I can't just go to a website and order one because of the fact that I'm only 14 so I obviously don't have a credit card.)
Thanks Everyone!!!
Spyders on Amazon.....OH NO :(!!!!!!
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DeathBySnooSnoo
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It should also be noted, that amazon can be its own store, as well as a hub for other stores. You may already know this, but always good as a minder, the ones that directly say amazon llc under the sale by [under price] is sold by amazon. If there is a different store name there, it could mean a few things. 1. It is one of many stores that sell it, and you can choose whom to buy for [some may be higher than others, but may be worthwhile if your looking for the cheapest, because some many may be out of state stores, therefore you may not [or may] be charged tax]. 2. The store may be sponsored by Amazon, meaning, amazon is using them as a direct proxy to sell that item [its easiest to point these out if they are "amazon prime stores" - also re: prime, the shipping charges differ between prime eligible vs non vs super saving vs store operated etc]. Given this, the prices change daily depending on the stores that price the item, changes in supply and demand [such as deathbysnoosnoo stated], change in seller, etc etc. An easy example, is when the item goes out of stock, the next cheapest store may be shown on the list, showing an increase in price. As with the fluted millie, it is most likely someone purchased it while you were deciding.
Great info Phrenik. It is the world that we live in today. YOu can't search or buy anythingPhrenik wrote:It should also be noted, that amazon can be its own store, as well as a hub for other stores. You may already know this, but always good as a minder, the ones that directly say amazon llc under the sale by [under price] is sold by amazon. If there is a different store name there, it could mean a few things. 1. It is one of many stores that sell it, and you can choose whom to buy for [some may be higher than others, but may be worthwhile if your looking for the cheapest, because some many may be out of state stores, therefore you may not [or may] be charged tax]. 2. The store may be sponsored by Amazon, meaning, amazon is using them as a direct proxy to sell that item [its easiest to point these out if they are "amazon prime stores" - also re: prime, the shipping charges differ between prime eligible vs non vs super saving vs store operated etc]. Given this, the prices change daily depending on the stores that price the item, changes in supply and demand [such as deathbysnoosnoo stated], change in seller, etc etc. An easy example, is when the item goes out of stock, the next cheapest store may be shown on the list, showing an increase in price. As with the fluted millie, it is most likely someone purchased it while you were deciding.
that doesn't get stored for future use. I have searched items and then later, had a pop up
from Amazon with "specials" about the same product. It makes you feel kind of funny.
It's like Big Brother is watching you and knows when you are sleeping and when you are
awake. And the scary part is that they really are watching you.
Lowes has a thing advertized now where they say that they keep track of all of your purchases,
so that in a year or so, if you want to touch up a room that you painted a year ago, you can
find out exactly what the paint mix was.
I don;t like this stuff. What if you bought something for the wife and didn't want her to know
what it cost or visa versa. Or even worse, what if you bought things that you really didn't
want her to know that you bought or exactly what they cost.
My wife knows what I buy and appox what things cost, but still. It makes you want to just
buy things in cash and NOT give them your phone number when they ask. Also, wear a ski
mask and rubber gloves to hide your finger prints. (maybe that's a little too far.)
Nope, Amazon does not do that. You can check the prices over time at camelcamelcamel.com.racer88 wrote:It's called "cookies." Amazon knows if you've browsed a product before. If you come back a short time later (sometimes even just minutes), they jack up the price. Airlines do it, too.
Throw the Military in, and you can it popped up to $133 recently for everyone http://camelcamelcamel.com/Spyderco-Mil ... B000N4Q3YK
Oh, yes they do. Ask me how I know. haha... I'm a long-time user of Amazon. I've seen it happen many, many times. And, yes, I'm aware of how Amazon works... ie... Amazon being the seller vs. another store selling through Amazon.phaust wrote:Nope, Amazon does not do that. You can check the prices over time at camelcamelcamel.com.
Throw the Military in, and you can it popped up to $133 recently for everyone http://camelcamelcamel.com/Spyderco-Mil ... B000N4Q3YK
Airlines do it, too. Also... experience.
Are you saying that 3rd party merchants do that on Amazon? ccc gives all the historical pricing data, so you can see the Military sold by Amazon (i.e., not third party) for instance is $133 for everyone, or try from a different comp, using incognito mode in Chrome (doesn't store cookies), etc., and you'll see the same thing, that the price matches what it says on camel*3, that the site did not jack up the price of those Spydies solely for kbrouwer due to him visiting it before.racer88 wrote:Oh, yes they do. Ask me how I know. haha... I'm a long-time user of Amazon. I've seen it happen many, many times. And, yes, I'm aware of how Amazon works... ie... Amazon being the seller vs. another store selling through Amazon.
Airlines do it, too. Also... experience.
I use Amazon a lot and always check camel prices before purchase to see what the price has been over time, and this is always the case.
edit: If you google amazon differential pricing, you can see they tried different prices per person once in 2000, there was a huge backlash, and they gave it up, even refunding the difference to those who had paid more.
[OT]kbuzbee wrote:... and maybe it isn't... I'm not at all okay with the amount of data being kept about us in the name of improved customer service.
Ken
As our online purchases grow, so does the information merchants retain about us. Not many know how exactly are they being tracked - for eg., if you searched for a knife on google, and then visit a different site, you'll see all knife ads. being shown in the ad space. Our "usage habits" can be tracked, and "better" advertising delivered maximizing the chances of we purchasing that product. Our every move is being tracked to a "certain extent". However, this is not a reason to press the panic button. Using common sense at most times can protect us - for eg., reminding yourself about no-free-lunch can avoid many baits - basically its our greed of getting freebies (and "deals") that allows merchants to collect more data on us.
By not readily giving out phone numbers, names, address -- being cautious at each step does help. Maintain a "throwaway" email address for all "sign-ups" - this is the address where you shall receive all spam and advertising. Without fail use this email address everytime you sign-up somewhere for greed. ;-)
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Amazon prices do change almost day to day. Sometimes a few cents, sometimes a few dollars or more; sometimes they go down too. I had a Kershaw in my shopping cart and it just went up almost 15% in the last few days. Maybe they are jacking up prices across the board for the holiday shopping season.
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racer88 wrote:It's called "cookies." Amazon knows if you've browsed a product before. If you come back a short time later (sometimes even just minutes), they jack up the price. Airlines do it, too.
Your seeing an effect and speculating on the cause. Amazon computers search the internet for prices and prices on their products are adjusted accordingly.racer88 wrote:Oh, yes they do. Ask me how I know. haha... I'm a long-time user of Amazon. I've seen it happen many, many times.
A good example mentioned was how prices rise and fall only a few cents. Do you really think Amazon would try and gauge everyone for a few pennies more?
Ask me how I know? I used to work there and no I do not have a high opinion of them as an employer but they are great from a customer standpoint.
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I put stuff in my shopping cart then save for later...each time I check my cart it updates the prices...got a GB for about $ 120 that had been as high as $ 150. I usually have several things I might buy in the cart and when/if the price drops I jump on it. I also only buy direct from Amazon not a "fulfilled" by Amazon site.....had to return several knives that I had gotten from other sellers thru them.
Wow, no offense to anyone but it sounds like the panic and paranoia factor is going into overdrive. When Amazon raises the price on an item, the price goes up for everyone, not just one specific person.
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Sorry to stray off topic, but I just wanted to respond to the myLowes statement. You would not believe how many people cannot keep a receipt to save their life, or remember what light bulb they bought, or what size their air filter is and when to change it, what kind of water filter their fridge needs, how big their living room is, etc etc, you get the point. MyLowes helps people help themselves.BAL wrote:Great info Phrenik. It is the world that we live in today. YOu can't search or buy anything
that doesn't get stored for future use. I have searched items and then later, had a pop up
from Amazon with "specials" about the same product. It makes you feel kind of funny.
It's like Big Brother is watching you and knows when you are sleeping and when you are
awake. And the scary part is that they really are watching you.
Lowes has a thing advertized now where they say that they keep track of all of your purchases,
so that in a year or so, if you want to touch up a room that you painted a year ago, you can
find out exactly what the paint mix was.
I don;t like this stuff. What if you bought something for the wife and didn't want her to know
what it cost or visa versa. Or even worse, what if you bought things that you really didn't
want her to know that you bought or exactly what they cost.
My wife knows what I buy and appox what things cost, but still. It makes you want to just
buy things in cash and NOT give them your phone number when they ask. Also, wear a ski
mask and rubber gloves to hide your finger prints. (maybe that's a little too far.)
And if you don't want the wifey to know, just don't scan your card for that transaction. Just make sure you've got a safe place to hide your receipt.
There is some funny stuff going on with amazon. If there is something that I don't have to buy right away, I normally monitor the price for a couple of weeks and watch to see if the price drops.
Check out this article about the computers automatically adjusting the price of a product based on how much another seller is selling it for.
http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=358
Check out this article about the computers automatically adjusting the price of a product based on how much another seller is selling it for.
http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=358
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Everyone just found all this out? Been going on for years. Another feature is the list showing the category or item type on which you ran a search. The less expensive/more popular/really higher rated ones only appear after you logged off an earlier search and then come back later and do another search in that exact same category.