Para-Military 2 spring?

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Para-Military 2 spring?

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The spring that keeps my Para-Military 2 is too loose for my liking. Is there a way to tighten this?

I don't have the tools to take it apart, does anyone know a good place to get them? Didn't see ones small enough at home depot.
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Spring?
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SpydieFan wrote:Spring?


I was able to take the knife apart. The only screws that are too small are the 3 attached to the clip. But on to the spring.............

The thing that keeps the blade from shaking out in your pocket. I believe in this case the "Spring" I referred to is not a "Spring" at all. It's a little ball at the end of the lock. You can see it if you take the knife apart. From the looks of it, there is nothing I can do. But please tell me you understand what I am talking about? When you play with the Para-Military 2 does anyone notice that it is about 10 times easier to shake out over the Delica? The tension on the Delica is good for about an 1.5in of distance away from being completely folded. While the PM2 is only good for about .25in.

Hoping someone knows what I mean and give me a yes or no answer rather than argue over a better way of explaining it.
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It's that Inside metal scale. If you look toward the top there is a little ball/bearing looking thing. That I believe is what keeps the PM2 from coming out in your pocket. Is there some genius out there that has come up with a way to put more tension on it without doing some bending?
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what spring? :confused: lol do you mean the ball detent?
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If you're talking about the ball detent then that's not a spring. Seems like you are worried about blade retention, I guess it's the lock that determined how well it retains the blade closed. Lockbacks like the delica have very good blade retention.
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Send it in before you disassemble it, the ball for the detent may have popped out. Other than that, either tighten the pivot, or take it apart and bend out the liner to have it apply more force... but your best bet is to send it Spyderco.
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As for retention where the blade returns to fully closed-nothing can be done; it's the nature of the design of liner style locks and it will not return to fully closed from a more open position like a CBBL, Axis lock, or even lock backs etc...
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He is referring to a weak ball detent...

There isn't a way to fix this other than tightening to pivot, which will kill the smoothness of the Para 2.

This isn't just your Para2, it's just the trait of the Para2 which allows it to be a super fast and easily flicked open and closed.
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Iv'e never found the ball detent to be weak, it's just about right; it's really hard to shake open unless you get the snap right and it will open in a flash. But once the blade is past the detent it is free to open fully; keep in mind that once blade is open so the tip is out < 1cm than ball is completely out of the detent.
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that is the locking tab , and the ball is the detent ball, You can add more tension by bending the liner out about 3/4 inch, personally, id just make the stop pin screws or the pivot extra tight
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Yeah, the ball detent. I couldn't find the words. It happens a lot to me. I don't think the ball detent is any weaker than anyone else. And as someone pointed out, once it is already out passed the ball, then nothing can be done. Oh well. Still very nice blade. Nicest I have owned so far.
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"Normal" blade retention is differs between locks. Midlocks, lockbacks, slipjoints and other designs which use a combination of a cam shaped blade tang and a strongly sprung follower tend to have significantly mor robust retention than most other designs. As with many things, there's a tradeoff involved. Stronger blade retention causes complaints about lack of "flickability".
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