Piston AR
Piston AR
I was looking for a bull pup rifle but Steyr stopped making the A3s for now. I'm looking at piston driven ARs leaning towards LWRC maybe even stag arms for a cheaper option. Anyone have experience with these rifles . I guess pricing is about $2000 give or take. Any other suggestions appreciated also. I did consider the Kel-Tec RFB but it's not available with a longer barrel yet. I'm leaning towards 5.56/.223 but the LWRC does have the option of purchasing just the 6.8 upper too. Remember PISTON driven. I know everyone has their opinion on which is better but I'm looking for piston driven. Also the H&K civilian model 416 is not an option.
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I own both a Stag and a LWRC. I have owned 5 Stags 1 piston and 4 DI and never had any problems with them. The LWRC was my first piston and I still shoot it from time to time in 3 gun comp. but I like the Stag for the value and service. The 6.8 is a nice round and all but I don't deer hunt and can't see it as anything other than a deer round. Both rifles are great but I don't like the piston AR's all that much or AR's for that matter. That's just my 2 cents
Not really looking for. 308, but I figure at 2000 I would be able to get an optic and be pretty set up if I go for an AR in the 1000 range. I was looking at lwrc because they have a good reputation but for a grand less the stag might be better I'm gonna go to some shops soon and see what they're going for locally
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I have two Bushmasters and they are fine guns. You'll want two. One in the G4 format and another one a little heavier in flat top for scope mounting. However if you want only one get the removable carrying handle/sight model that you can mount a scope on. I think Remington bought out Bushmaster so either one would be ok.
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Yes Remington has owed Bushmaster for about 2 years now but I don't know if that's a good thing. Don't get me wrong most of my long distance comp rifles use the 700 as a base platform, but I feel that Bushmasters QC has dropped since they were bought out.RanCoWeAla wrote:I think Remington bought out Bushmaster so either one would be ok.
I had an LMT in hand, but ended up with Colt M4. The LMT is awesome and within budget. I've wanted to get my hands on the Ruger FB too. The bolt carrier and bolt are chromed to make for easier cleaning. After cleaning my M4 a handful of times, I do wish I'd gone with both a PD and chromed bolt/carrier. Total pita to clean std. M4.
In your opinion 2cha, is the Colt worth the extra coin. It all depends on what and how much you use it,2cha wrote:I had an LMT in hand, but ended up with Colt M4. The LMT is awesome and within budget. I've wanted to get my hands on the Ruger FB too. The bolt carrier and bolt are chromed to make for easier cleaning. After cleaning my M4 a handful of times, I do wish I'd gone with both a PD and chromed bolt/carrier. Total pita to clean std. M4.
what else you have etc etc, but I was just curious. I worked with a guy who's father in law had countless
AR's and they said that the Colt was as good as it gets. Of course, everone has different opinions.
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I like the 416 but not a fan of how they made the civilian model. H&K has a way of ruining their civilian model firearms. If I went through a class 3 dealer I could possibly get a 416 but fully auto rifles are pretty pricey. So 2cha you're saying you wish you had gone piston driven instead of direct impingement?
It was to me. I have a pretty good relationship with my dealer and he pushed it pretty hard especially on quality control issues-of course, he is a salesman. In stock at time he also had DPMS, Sig 516(?), LMT in DI and PD--Colt was low middle price wise, so it genuinely seemed like he wanted a happy customer. I'm a good customer too and he knows that From experience that if the gun isn't right, that I will have him send it back. If I had to do it over again, I,d either get the Colt or the PD by LMT. I just cleaned the Colt again and it goes much quicker with practice.BAL wrote:In your opinion 2cha, is the Colt worth the extra coin. It all depends on what and how much you use it,
what else you have etc etc, but I was just curious. I worked with a guy who's father in law had countless
AR's and they said that the Colt was as good as it gets. Of course, everone has different opinions.
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AR's are a pita to clean no matter what. The piston guns are going to run much cleaner longer and you will avoid a lot of carbon build up on the internals. I find the piston stays relatively clean also, but needs to be adjusted properly to stay that way, and with certain ammo that can be a challenge. Some ammo is inconsistently loaded, but still within tolerances, and you get some short strokes and stovepipes if your piston isn't in the right setting. I do believe that the piston is the way of the future, but to me it's not worth the extra price.
Thanks for the info 2cha.2cha wrote:It was to me. I have a pretty good relationship with my dealer and he pushed it pretty hard especially on quality control issues-of course, he is a salesman. In stock at time he also had DPMS, Sig 516(?), LMT in DI and PD--Colt was low middle price wise, so it genuinely seemed like he wanted a happy customer. I'm a good customer too and he knows that From experience that if the gun isn't right, that I will have him send it back. If I had to do it over again, I,d either get the Colt or the PD by LMT. I just cleaned the Colt again and it goes much quicker with practice.