Buy Sprints, then Flip Them at a Profit?

Discuss Spyderco's products and history.

Would you ever buy a Spyderco just to flip it?

I routinely flip my spydies
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I have flipped a spydie
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I would flip a spydie
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33%
I wouldn't flip a spydie, and will explain why
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39%
 
Total votes: 169

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chuck_roxas45 wrote:Something must be wrong with being a flipper if guys get butthurt when they think their integrity is being questioned if they are called flippers. :p
I'm sure you are well aware of butt hurt but what exactly would you know of integrity? You haven't displayed any here.

As a matter of fact you made quite the "***" out of yourself as far as threads go. Be proud. I'm sure most of us junior members really appreciate your antics.

It's ok if you can't put your thoughts into concise paragraphs and explain your stance. It's not ok to think you are clever or that others think that you are funny for your lack of vocabulary and communications skills.
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JNewell wrote:Don't worry, there's no present risk of that, none at all. :( And I say that as a friend, just think what the others would be saying. :eek: :D
Of changing minds or making sense? :)


Good to have you as a friend, and I thank you for that, but then I have lived most of my life not caring too much what people say about me. :D
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bh49 wrote: Probably you need to be a little more careful with calling anybody "lowlifes".
No I don't. I'll be the judge on just how careful I am. I'm sorry you disagree but that is exactly how I feel.

The 2009 forum knife was a prime example. That knife was graciously created by Spyderco for us, the Spyderco knife lovers. Unfortunately some lowlifes bought a bunch and sold them at a higher price which made legitimate Spyderco lovers not able to purchase one at the price from the SFO. Theses people didn't add a service when they scooped up multiple forum knives. They artificially made the knives scarce and therefore more expensive. In my book they are a lowlife. I was extremely fortunate to get a forum knife from the SFO under extraordinary circumstances that I won't go into. Personally I have all the Sprints that I aimed to get with relative ease. There are some I would have liked to purchase but decided not to get and not because I missed out.

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C'mon guys. I'll refer you to George Bernard Shaw.

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

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gaj999 wrote:C'mon guys. I'll refer you to George Bernard Shaw.

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

Gordon
What other insults do you know? :D
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gaj999 wrote:C'mon guys. I'll refer you to George Bernard Shaw.

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

Gordon
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Pigs are actually one of the smartest animals in the planet. LMAO!

I just won a Les George fixed blade VECP in CPM 3V in a GAW so my day is made. Hehehe.
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syntaxerrorsix wrote:Pigs make bacon. One of the many benefits of being at the top of the food chain.
I'm talking about long pig here. So was George. ;)

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Oh and my 2nd grey Caly is in the PO waiting to be picked up. Nice sunny day here. :D
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chuck_roxas45 wrote:Oh and my 2nd grey Caly is in the PO waiting to be picked up. Nice sunny day here. :D

Share it with all your friends. Leave the rest of us be.
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syntaxerrorsix wrote:Share it with all your friends. Leave the rest of us be.
There's the ignore function. If you can figure out how to use that without getting butthurt. :D
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And here I thought this place was friendly to balisongs, but the way you're talking about flippers is making me sad. I like y2k rollovers and arial tricks with my knives.
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chuck_roxas45 wrote:There's the ignore function. If you can figure out how to use that without getting butthurt. :D
Oh you're first class. True comedy. If stupid could killed more often it would have alleviated my need for the ignore button. I suppose I better sort it out or be tortured with your unyielding wit.

Amazing.
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syntaxerrorsix wrote:Oh you're first class. True comedy. If stupid could killed more often it would have alleviated my need for the ignore button. I suppose I better sort it out or be tortured with your unyielding wit.

Amazing.
There you go. That didn't hurt a bit, did it? :p
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OK, here's the thing:

Spyderco makes n number of knives per sprint. The dealers who arrange for exclusive runs contract for x number of knives per exclusive.

Spyderco and the Dealers set prices for sprints/exclusives. It is uncommon for these runs not to sell out. Furthermore, it is quite common for knives from these runs to sell for significantly higher prices than the original run.

These data suggest that Spyderco and the Dealers have not set their prices anywhere close to the actual equilibrium between the supply of knives (x or n) and the demand for the product. The prices are, in fact, reflective of a much lower level of demand than actually exists.

By undercharging for these knives (relative to the demand), Spyderco and the Dealers are creating free money for flippers -- the flippers get to collect the difference between the original price and the subsequent secondary market price, which more accurately tracks the equilibrium between supply and demand.

We can say that we wish that nobody out there had noticed this opportunity to pick free money off the ground. But that's basically the story: Spyderco and the Dealers are underpricing the knives, and the flippers are actually charging what the market will bear.

Remember: if the flippers were actually charging prices too steep to sell out their stock, they would be stuck with knives they didn't want. Those inflated secondary-market prices you guys are getting mad about are the real price.
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jackknifeh wrote:I remember when the Manix2 FFG with M4 blade was coming out. Only 600 of them. Lots of us pre ordered them and got them when they first came out. Can't speak for others but I've enjoyed that knife and intend to do so for a long time. The knife was on sale on eBay for up to $250 and $300 the very same week. I hope no one bought them because they are still availabe at bento. But the people who thought they were going to double their money in just a few days were disappointed. So sorry.

Jack
I bought one of those from Bentos for about $154 about 2-3 months ago. It was a nice knife, but much too WIDE of a blade for me to carry EDC. I don't need that wide of a blade. I never carried it out of the house, IIRC, and sold it for $140 about 2 weeks ago as ANIB. I also lost money on a BenchMade AFCK a week later. I'm just constantly on the search (recently, anyway) and buy a knife, keep it for a month or so and then sell it for a small loss.

OTOH, I did buy two Sprints recently: a NIB Bob Lum Tanto and a Para2 S90V. I've been after that S90V for a long time, but they are pricey these days. I'm glad to finally get it, however, and won't be letting that one go. I also have that knife in 20CP, and I like it a lot, but that steel never quite got all the hoopla of the S90V. Knives like these, I'll carry in EDC rotation and then give them to my boys.

I'm not much of a businessman, I guess. But, like Jack, I'm gradually getting together a "set" of EDC's that I'm fond of.
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syntaxerrorsix wrote:I'm sure you are well aware of butt hurt but what exactly would you know of integrity? You haven't displayed any here.

As a matter of fact you made quite the "***" out of yourself as far as threads go. Be proud. I'm sure most of us junior members really appreciate your antics.

It's ok if you can't put your thoughts into concise paragraphs and explain your stance. It's not ok to think you are clever or that others think that you are funny for your lack of vocabulary and communications skills.
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I hope the actions & words of a few do not leave a bad taste in your mouth, or leave you with a negative opinion or experience of the forum. It is my belief that newcomers and junior members are vital to the forum and to the knife community in general, no matter what your preferred brand of knife is. *
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FWIW, I chose to not even acknowledge or respond to the snide, condescending pot-shot that he took at me earlier in this very thread. Heck, another guy indirectly called me an idiot by linking me to the “moron’s guide to economics” or some such thing. *I suppose I leave myself open to those kind of attacks because I’m not part of the ‘in crowd’ or the ‘clique’ here on the forum. *But that’s OK, I’m not going to go back on what I said, it’s just my opinion, nothing more. Which is why you will seldom see a “comment edited by” or a “comment deleted by” notation at the bottom of any of my posts.
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We all have our moments of smug soap box preaching. In the end disagreements can (and should) happen but intent should kept remotely civil. Personal attacks should have no place here. If we want to uphold a respectful place of knife community.

On that note I did take a pot shot at Gordon and regret it (sorry). I think it was a combination of tones and a lack of courtesy on both sides. Respect is earned but everyone should be granted basic courtesy. My bad.

In the end the ignore filter should be used. Immature perhaps but better preemptive with the filtering than with the repartee. Trust me. :(
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everyday i surprised this thread isnt locked. i love the funny drama that comes with it but on spydercos friendly forum i choose to not really get into it, ive seriously never been involved in a more honest and friendly forum until this one.

that being said though if you didnt preorder the knife your complaining about stop whining and blame yourself, move on, ive been just as guilty for the same problem. unless you can afford the collectors club prices most likely youre not gonna get them all.
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Blerv wrote:We all have our moments of smug soap box preaching. In the end disagreements can (and should) happen but intent should kept remotely civil. Personal attacks should have no place here. If we want to uphold a respectful place of knife community.

On that note I did take a pot shot at Gordon and regret it (sorry). I think it was a combination of tones and a lack of courtesy on both sides. Respect is earned but everyone should be granted basic courtesy. My bad.

In the end the ignore filter should be used. Immature perhaps but better preemptive with the filtering than with the repartee. Trust me. :(
I'm more guilty than most Blerv but as you mentioned, smug soapbox preaching on both sides of a coin does often make for a less respectful tone towards those with a different persuasion. We do get carried away when the discussion goes towards what is near to our hearts.

Once again you have hit the nail on the head , judicious use of the ignore function will work wonders for those with less tolerance.

There also seems to be an abundance of "last worditis" in various forums including this one.
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