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Golden, CO CQI. :spyder:
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Bearcat1 wrote:I have bought several knives from Jeff recently and felt he is a great person to deal with. Whenever I bought a knife and paid the shipping he would throw in a small gift to show his appreciation. He often sent out a Spyderco catalog without asking and he would QC the knife before shipping it to me. He has always been pleasant and very professional. There was one time we had a mix up on an order and he addressed the issue right away.

I am grateful he takes the initiative to bring out a dealer exclusive like he has and taken the financial risk to do it. I do not get the impression anyone selling knives today is getting wealthy quickly. Jeff would normally sell his knives at a 46% discount to MSRP and he recently lowered his discount to 44%. His discounts to MSRP seem to be varying more, but he is in business to make a living. I think he was very up front on the pricing of the PM2 and Jeff should be commended for that.

There are many more companies in the knife retail business that you could take issue with rather than CS.

If you are upset over the $19 price increase then by all means take your business elsewhere.
i agree with this to the point that i won't buy knives anywhere else
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I had no idea the $117 was a predisclosed limited time price. This makes much more sense now. I always thought that CS was a great dealer but could not understand why they raised the price in that manner. When I first saw the knife at CS, the price was already 136. Then I came here and saw some posts mentioned that they ordered it for only 117, 126 so I thought......
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Any idea when this knife will be shipping?
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Hooterville wrote:Any idea when this knife will be shipping?
Release is scheduled for April 2012.
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gbelleh wrote:Yes, the recent Para 2s seem to be getting better and better. Each of my last 3 has been nicer and smoother than the last.
The first couple needed some small adjustments, but judging by the blue M390, it seems they're perfecting building the Para 2.
There have been some really scary grinding errors posted over on BladeForums.com by folks getting in the Brown S35VN PM2 sprint. Looked like a big keg of Coor beer had been set up in the break room in colorado, and the folks doing the grind had been partaking on their break. I no one is having a birthday, or retires, or some other "party" function happens the day they run the orange sprint!
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Love the Para 2, don't know much about that particular steel though....
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Fat Goat Forge wrote:There have been some really scary grinding errors posted over on BladeForums.com by folks getting in the Brown S35VN PM2 sprint. Looked like a big keg of Coor beer had been set up in the break room in colorado, and the folks doing the grind had been partaking on their break. I no one is having a birthday, or retires, or some other "party" function happens the day they run the orange sprint!
there's one way to fix that problem. do like I do and don't read bladeforums. I seriously doubt the orange sprint will have any problems with the grind and such.
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Fat Goat Forge wrote:There have been some really scary grinding errors posted over on BladeForums.com by folks getting in the Brown S35VN PM2 sprint. Looked like a big keg of Coor beer had been set up in the break room in colorado, and the folks doing the grind had been partaking on their break. I no one is having a birthday, or retires, or some other "party" function happens the day they run the orange sprint!
I saw the thread and would have to say people are being way to picky. I understand not wanting scratches on the blade from the factory, but *****ing about a slight uneven bevel is being too picky. These are not scary grinding errors.
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Agree, and c'mon, these are - wait, wait....wait for it...production knives. :rolleyes:
Wisehybred wrote:I saw the thread and would have to say people are being way to picky. I understand not wanting scratches on the blade from the factory, but *****ing about a slight uneven bevel is being too picky. These are not scary grinding errors.
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LOL, when is the last time you saw a knife with perfectly equal edge grinds? ****, I spent a good part of an hour sharpening my $300 lionspy. not so much the grinds were off. but, it had a tiny flat spot like it hit another knife during production or something and the edge from the belly to the tip is completely dull from lack of even getting up a burr in that spot. I'm happy to fix it myself rather than if it was overly ground there and had a bunch of good steel removed. now I can put my own edge on it. which is a little tricky getting the angle right, especially freehand. not for the average Joe though and I understand how one could be upset with that.
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Fat Goat Forge wrote:There have been some really scary grinding errors posted over on BladeForums.com by folks getting in the Brown S35VN PM2 sprint. Looked like a big keg of Coor beer had been set up in the break room in colorado, and the folks doing the grind had been partaking on their break. I no one is having a birthday, or retires, or some other "party" function happens the day they run the orange sprint!
You're the perfect example of hyperbole run amok. "Scary grinding errors"? That's like having a butterfly run into you and then saying you were attacked by a vicious, blood sucking airborne angel of death. ( :p see, hyperbole can be fun too!) While the scratches on the blade of a brand new knife are not acceptable, the very slight variance in edge grind is barely even perceptible. The OP of that thread is a joke for thinking that it's a major issue. Hand sharpened knives are certainly going to have slightly uneven bevels and I'd say that the unevenness of his example is minor, at best. Keep in mind that the first two pictures are about 2x actual size with the third picture being roughly 3x real life size. Even at 2-3x the size, the grind doesn't look bad at all and I'd be perfectly happy with a grind like that (and am happy with my couple of knives that have worse grinds than that).
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Ya know, I think if I worked at Golden I'd be kinda miffed... :( I know I never get anything less than perfect. :rolleyes:
Fat Goat Forge wrote:There have been some really scary grinding errors posted over on BladeForums.com by folks getting in the Brown S35VN PM2 sprint. Looked like a big keg of Coor beer had been set up in the break room in colorado, and the folks doing the grind had been partaking on their break. I no one is having a birthday, or retires, or some other "party" function happens the day they run the orange sprint!
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Check out the post right after his from "JRAmmon". I think that poster set the OP straight.
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HighDesertSpyder wrote:Check out the post right after his from "JRAmmon". I think that poster set the OP straight.
After reading his post over on BF, I kind of wish I had kept my original reply to FGF in this thread. Before I clicked "post", I edited out all the super harsh parts to try and be nice (and abide by Sal's shiny footprints philosophy), but sometimes people deserve a reality check...
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jabba359 wrote:After reading his post over on BF, I kind of wish I had kept my original reply to FGF in this thread. Before I clicked "post", I edited out all the super harsh parts to try and be nice (and abide by Sal's shiny footprints philosophy), but sometimes people deserve a reality check...
I'd like to apologize to sal and the forum members here and the colorado employees. I'm a week out from a hip replacement and in the middle of the pre-loading of pain medication which consists of mild narcotics, big doses of aceteminophin , lyrica and a cocktail of other things that seem to have led to a lot of disorientation and a loss of judgement and control. I will make this my last post for while until I have the procedure and am off of any post op medication.

Again sorry everybody.
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Gracious reply, and sympathies for your current medical situation. I just recently had serious shoulder surgery and I can affirm with conviction that narcotics can really affect not just your body but your mind and social interactions as well. :( Very best wishes for a full and speedy recovery. :spyder:
Fat Goat Forge wrote:I'd like to apologize to sal and the forum members here and the colorado employees. I'm a week out from a hip replacement and in the middle of the pre-loading of pain medication which consists of mild narcotics, big doses of aceteminophin , lyrica and a cocktail of other things that seem to have led to a lot of disorientation and a loss of judgement and control. I will make this my last post for while until I have the procedure and am off of any post op medication.

Again sorry everybody.
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I can't believe I'm saying this, because I'm on the neurotic/anal side when it comes to wanting things I buy to be "right", but I don't mind reasonable "imperfections" in my hand-ground blades. My Smurf has bevels that are mismatched enough to be obvious to the naked eye (at least if you have a very good eye like the one I am cursed with). It doesn't bother me. Does it cut? That's the main thing. Yes, it cuts. Part of me likes the fact that it's the way it is because a human crafted it by hand. Now, if the blade had obvious scratches or the bevels were way out, that would be different...
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