Not sure if this has been discussed yet, i haven't been on here for a while but i stumbled across this and thought my fellow aussie collectors of sharp things should give this a read. One hand opening knives are now on the "Items that ARE or MAY BE subject to control" list, as are battle axes, tomahawks, and kerambits/karambits.
http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page4372 ... ingWeapons
"On 13 December 2011, the Minister for Home Affairs announced that import controls on weapons would be tighter from 14 December 2011. Read his announcement here.
From 14 December 2011, more stringent import controls on non-firearm weapons will be applicable – as per the Minister’s election commitment.
If you are an importer of non-firearm weapons, these changes will effect you. Please read the Importing Weapons information on this page very carefully as the import permission process has changed."
Australia-revised "weapon" importation laws.
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Emcee Bunzing
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Australia-revised "weapon" importation laws.
You are only as sharp as your knife. "Life is short. If you don't stop and look around... and do whatever you want all the time... then you could miss it."
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Also on the list are "sheath knives".
Samurai swords are ok, but sheath knives aren't? Trying to keep up with the logic in this is beyond me. It's a democracy though. If that's what the people of the country want it's what they should have. Not my business.
Besides, we have our share of confusing and incomprehensible laws here so I can't claim any sort of superiority. It's all a mess!
Joe
Samurai swords are ok, but sheath knives aren't? Trying to keep up with the logic in this is beyond me. It's a democracy though. If that's what the people of the country want it's what they should have. Not my business.
Besides, we have our share of confusing and incomprehensible laws here so I can't claim any sort of superiority. It's all a mess!
Joe
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"Unless you're the lead dog the view is pretty much gonna stay the same!"
The Mastiff wrote:Also on the list are "sheath knives".
Samurai swords are ok, but sheath knives aren't? Trying to keep up with the logic in this is beyond me. It's a democracy though. If that's what the people of the country want it's what they should have. Not my business.
Besides, we have our share of confusing and incomprehensible laws here so I can't claim any sort of superiority. It's all a mess!
Joe
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luckily bows (excluding crossbows) and most swords aren't a controlled import yet but i'm sure they're working on it.
With the non-metallic and non-ceramic knives i think that means you CAN'T import sharpened plastic knives like the cold steel nightshade series.
And a "sheath knife" if i remember it right, is a knife where the sheath retracts automatically into the handle via spring tension and a button, sort of an automatic fixed blade (never heard of or seen one of those personally, a normal fixed blade and sheath seems faster and safer)
Their logic is that if its small and automatic you can conceal it and draw it quickly and therefore you must be going to stab someone, whereas you cant carry a sword in the street.
Which is completely ridiculous of course, i could conceal a massive bowie if i needed to do so and those are fine and dandy. And a man was attacked with "swords" in the street in my hometown.
The number of spydies on ebay has increased recently but they are very rarely at a reasonable price, a certain seller has temperance 2's for $471!!! i paid half that for mine, but it will soon be to the point where i can't import any spyders at all and will have to pay the extra dollars for even the smallest ones. Thats if they don't ban the sale, carry or even ownership of them.
With the non-metallic and non-ceramic knives i think that means you CAN'T import sharpened plastic knives like the cold steel nightshade series.
And a "sheath knife" if i remember it right, is a knife where the sheath retracts automatically into the handle via spring tension and a button, sort of an automatic fixed blade (never heard of or seen one of those personally, a normal fixed blade and sheath seems faster and safer)
Their logic is that if its small and automatic you can conceal it and draw it quickly and therefore you must be going to stab someone, whereas you cant carry a sword in the street.
Which is completely ridiculous of course, i could conceal a massive bowie if i needed to do so and those are fine and dandy. And a man was attacked with "swords" in the street in my hometown.
The number of spydies on ebay has increased recently but they are very rarely at a reasonable price, a certain seller has temperance 2's for $471!!! i paid half that for mine, but it will soon be to the point where i can't import any spyders at all and will have to pay the extra dollars for even the smallest ones. Thats if they don't ban the sale, carry or even ownership of them.
You are only as sharp as your knife. "Life is short. If you don't stop and look around... and do whatever you want all the time... then you could miss it."
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Politicians are masters at making up new policies that sound great ... if you don't think about them too hard ... and this suits most of the voting public because they're too busy worrying about paying-off their mortgages or who's going to win the latest "talent show". :rolleyes:
If you ask most people here in the UK whether they want to make it harder for criminals to get hold of and carry knives then there would be a resounding "of course!" But if you show them the results of the law - like ordinary citizens being unable to import a harmless folding pocket knife or Scouts and bushcrafters being unable to carry a fixed blade for fear of arrest they are aghast and tell you that the law's an ***.
The problem is that most voters are happy with a society that rewards ignorance and encourages people not to think carefully about what they are voting for.
If you ask most people here in the UK whether they want to make it harder for criminals to get hold of and carry knives then there would be a resounding "of course!" But if you show them the results of the law - like ordinary citizens being unable to import a harmless folding pocket knife or Scouts and bushcrafters being unable to carry a fixed blade for fear of arrest they are aghast and tell you that the law's an ***.
The problem is that most voters are happy with a society that rewards ignorance and encourages people not to think carefully about what they are voting for.
My spydies: Squeak, Tenacious, Terzuola, D'Allara, UKPK CF peel-ply pre-production, UKPK CF smooth pre-production, UKPK G10 orange leaf-blade, UKPK FRN grey drop-point, UKPK FRN maroon leaf-blade, Bug ... all PE blades :)
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I didn't mean to be an overly opinionated yank here so I'm gonna shut up after this. It was this part of the statement where it claims "as per ministers election commitment". I just figured he had that in his platform during the election race.Wherever did you get that crazy idea, Joe ?
Recent Changes to Weapons Import Requirements
On 13 December 2011, the Minister for Home Affairs announced that import controls on weapons would be tighter from 14 December 2011. Read his announcement here.
From 14 December 2011, more stringent import controls on non-firearm weapons will be applicable – as per the Minister’s election commitment.
There are a lot of people who seem to get comfort from/by passing these sort of laws, whether they actually make them safer or not. Here at least anyways. There are different groups with plenty of unpaid volunteers working on various issues. Assault weapons, pistols, all weapons imaginable, nuclear arms, everything under the sun in fact. They seem to have plenty of money to support politicians, work to pass bills on the local level and use the court systems hoping to get a sympathetic judge to rule in their favor despite constitutional issues that have already been decided elsewhere. If you can think of it it's been tried. Here anyway.
If it was a election decision where the majority decided it would be easier to swallow. Often it isn't though.
Joe
"A Mastiff is to a dog what a Lion is to a housecat. He stands alone and all others sink before him. His courage does not exceed temper and generosity, and in attachment he equals the kindest of his race" Cynographia Britannic 1800
"Unless you're the lead dog the view is pretty much gonna stay the same!"
"Unless you're the lead dog the view is pretty much gonna stay the same!"
This kind of thing is certainly not limited to Australia or any other single country. It has long since become a global issue with many countries signing onto a nonsensical treaty promulgated by a farce named the U.N.
Politicians, in addition to needing something simple enough to spoon-feed the masses, seem to be worried about their own safety. During the past century or so, this has been limited essentially to third-world countries where dictators kept the people unarmed to prevent rebellion. One can only speculate as to what politicians in the so-called "democracies" are so fearful of to consider an unarmed citizenry desirable.
For example, our mayor and D.A. have 24/7 protection from the NYPD but deny those who voted for them (and those who didn't) the right to protect themselves. It's well past time for the voters to wake up and give some thought to who they are voting for and whose interests those running for elected office put first.
Citizens of many countries could learn a lot from Switzerland's position on firearms. The Swiss government requires its militia to maintain their personal weapon at home as part of their mandatory military duty. Yet, the very word "militia" has been vilified in the United States and elsewhere to the point where it is considered anti-government when nothing could be further from the truth.
A recent attempt by the political opposition resulted in a referendum to tighten gun control in Switzerland and was soundly defeated. This, in a country acknowledged to be extremely civilized with one of the highest standards of living and lowest rates of armed criminal activity on the planet.
End of rant, but it should be food for thought. :confused:
Politicians, in addition to needing something simple enough to spoon-feed the masses, seem to be worried about their own safety. During the past century or so, this has been limited essentially to third-world countries where dictators kept the people unarmed to prevent rebellion. One can only speculate as to what politicians in the so-called "democracies" are so fearful of to consider an unarmed citizenry desirable.
For example, our mayor and D.A. have 24/7 protection from the NYPD but deny those who voted for them (and those who didn't) the right to protect themselves. It's well past time for the voters to wake up and give some thought to who they are voting for and whose interests those running for elected office put first.
Citizens of many countries could learn a lot from Switzerland's position on firearms. The Swiss government requires its militia to maintain their personal weapon at home as part of their mandatory military duty. Yet, the very word "militia" has been vilified in the United States and elsewhere to the point where it is considered anti-government when nothing could be further from the truth.
A recent attempt by the political opposition resulted in a referendum to tighten gun control in Switzerland and was soundly defeated. This, in a country acknowledged to be extremely civilized with one of the highest standards of living and lowest rates of armed criminal activity on the planet.
End of rant, but it should be food for thought. :confused: