CRKT M16-13SF gunting ramp knockoff?

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Clinton
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CRKT M16-13SF gunting ramp knockoff?

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Post by Clinton »

Just looking through the latest Tactical Knives and see in the CRKT add that they have an M16 knife with a double Carson Flipper. Now, I don't know for sure about patents and patent law, but I would think the front flipper would make a dandy kin-op device...



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Howdy Clinton! Welcome to <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>Land! <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

You know, you may well be right. I'm sure <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> is looking into it as we speak, as certain things are sacrosanct. Stealing another's designs is beyond the pale.

Never underestimate the impossible.
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Post by midget »

come on now, guys. be reasonable.

knives are knives. take steel, add a cup of zytel/g10, and you get a knife. it can only get so complicated.

You could say a lot of things about "steel plagerism" in the knife community. as we speak there is thourough spydie bashing in the benchmade forums due to spyderco's ball bearing lock, perhaps too close to the axis lock. SOG's arclock goes along the same lines. spyderco can bash a lot of other knife companies for their most notable hole/clip designs. Does Emerson take on CRKT for the La Griffe design? And is Spyderco/CRKT/Emersons' "kinetic opening" devices really all that different? (referring to the gunting hump, carson flipper, and E. wave)

I am kind of torn, in this arguement. I do believe patents and ideas should very much be protected. However, I also feel this can be done within reason.

The carson flipper isn't one-to-one with the gunting hump, so why considering questioning it?

The company that takes an idea and finds the best way to deliver it- that's the company that comes out on top.
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Post by calyth »

I think they probably extended the carson flipper and make it on both sides more than anything else. It's designed as an integral guard, and with the rounded corners, I doubt it would do well as a Gunting ramp. The ramp on the Gunting is much more prominant to make it effective. Smaller protrusions would not likely make it work.
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