Simplest way to put it. The only wrong thing would be to fault the retailer for making an honest mistake.Sequimite wrote:Like most, I think the talk of negative feedback is plain wrong.
Here's what happened:
Vendor - I'll sell you a great knife at a ridiculously low price.
Customer - I'll take it.
Vendor - Oops, that was too low, can't sell it for that.
Customer - OK.
There is nothing unethical in that exchange. There was nothing wrong with buying $8 Endura trainers last year.
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Believe it or not Paul I actually look up to you and value your vast knowledge on knifes. That is why I recently joined this forum. I would never ignore you, or anyone because I'm not 5 yrs old. I think the ignore feature is for babies. I am however growing tired of the superior attitude that some posts here seem to indicate. So much negativity has made its way around this forum as of late it makes me sad.The Deacon wrote:I'd ask you the same question and offer you the same advice. I'm not going anywhere, so if you don't like my opinions, you can put me on ignore.
I do not think that something wrong with this thread. I do not think that anybody expected orders to be filled, unless this person naive. Of cause nothing wrong with cancelling the orders. Leaving negative feedback for that is wrong.
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My top choices Natives5, Calys, C83 Persian
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If you read the rest of my post, price is not the point. The point is that in a free market society like ours, people are permitted to sell legal goods for whatever they want, and a buyer can choose to buy or not. If the listed price is a mistake, all the seller has to do is say so and no harm done. People sell things all the time for less than what their worth (watch Pawn Stars and see), so I don't see a problem with taking a chance to see if their offer to sell was legitimate.The Deacon wrote:So, the though that they MIGHT have taken advantage of someone justifies cheating them? Sorry, I just don't buy it and I stand by my original post. I do not believe that any reasonably intelligent person familiar with Spyderco products could think $10 was a legitimate price for a brand new FFG Endura 4 from a dealer.
The important thing was that I had an onion tied to my belt, which was the style at the time. You couldn't get white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
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cyberspyder
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Please tell me you've never bought items on sale. Like I mentioned before, I know people that have gotten items for $0.00 or $0.01 from Amazon before because they needed to clear their stock. Would that be stealing too? Where is this line supposed to go? If I was to sell my Manix for a $1 and someone buys it, is that stealing too? Comeon...
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:spyder: Spyderco OG Manix PE
:spyder: Spyderco Black Dodo SE *gone*
:spyder: Spyderco Black Paramilitary PE *gone*
:spyder: Spyderco SPOT PE *gone*
:spyder: Spyderco OG Blackhawk SE *gone*
:spyder: Spyderco Ladybug/Photon *gone*
Hey Paul,
I agree with you on several points. However, I really fail to see how that could be blamed on us, the honest consumers. (im not talking about the dillhole a couple pages back who suggested we leave negative feedback. If you'll look, I called that a dick move.) Personally, I did not make any purchases, but it was not because I felt it would be morally wrong. I was waiting to hear back from the seller to make sure the prices were legit. If they were, id be ALL OVER that. I'll agree the prices did sound way too good to be true, but Ive gotten ridiculous deals in the past, and I hope to get some ridiculous deals in the future (I dont think that makes me a criminal. wishful thinking is not a crime). The only way any of us would be in the wrong would be if we paid that price for goods that we had known to be stolen or something. With internet-based stores, the seller has the last decision whether to honor the deal or not. In this case the seller had plenty of time to realize the mistake, and cancel the orders. No harm done. Its not likely a mistake that large would have slipped through, especially with a new company like that which probably only has a hand full of people to run it (if that).
I agree with you, those who hoped to get orders at the detriment of the seller, or who had made statements about faulting the seller for an obvious mistake DO reflect poorly on this forum. However, I believe they are in the minority. Most of us were just excited at the chance for a good honest deal, and I don't think we should be faulted for that. There were a whole lot more people involved with this thread than just the bad apples. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water!
I agree with you on several points. However, I really fail to see how that could be blamed on us, the honest consumers. (im not talking about the dillhole a couple pages back who suggested we leave negative feedback. If you'll look, I called that a dick move.) Personally, I did not make any purchases, but it was not because I felt it would be morally wrong. I was waiting to hear back from the seller to make sure the prices were legit. If they were, id be ALL OVER that. I'll agree the prices did sound way too good to be true, but Ive gotten ridiculous deals in the past, and I hope to get some ridiculous deals in the future (I dont think that makes me a criminal. wishful thinking is not a crime). The only way any of us would be in the wrong would be if we paid that price for goods that we had known to be stolen or something. With internet-based stores, the seller has the last decision whether to honor the deal or not. In this case the seller had plenty of time to realize the mistake, and cancel the orders. No harm done. Its not likely a mistake that large would have slipped through, especially with a new company like that which probably only has a hand full of people to run it (if that).
I agree with you, those who hoped to get orders at the detriment of the seller, or who had made statements about faulting the seller for an obvious mistake DO reflect poorly on this forum. However, I believe they are in the minority. Most of us were just excited at the chance for a good honest deal, and I don't think we should be faulted for that. There were a whole lot more people involved with this thread than just the bad apples. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water!
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This whole debacle is hilarious. Talk about free-market entitlement issues. Yikes.
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