Who got a bad spyderco?
How to define a bad knife? Customer disappointment is very subjective. There were some complains on Forums, which I consider not serious. I had my disappointments, which most likely many people would find ridiculous. I am sure that there are people who disappointed with CR and WH knives. But they have quite different price tag and can invest much more $$ in manufacturing process and inspection.
I had one knife, (Superhawk) out of 100+, which probably most people would agree was defective. It was missing some material on spine.
I had one knife, (Superhawk) out of 100+, which probably most people would agree was defective. It was missing some material on spine.
Absolute numbers can be misleading as well. 1 out of 1 is a lot, 1 out of 100 is not that bad.Onionman wrote:Percentage would be more misleading, since you don't know the total number of knives purchased and the overall sales.
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My top choices Natives5, Calys, C83 Persian
My top choices Natives5, Calys, C83 Persian
Percentage I think might also be a bit misleading. If there are people that have purchased well in the 100's of spydercos, I can safely assume that they are big fans of the Spyderco brand and their products. Thus they already have a very positive opinion and would not likely complain about CQ. (There should be a recovery program like AA for you folks that have 300+ folding knives. Time to call your sponsor. :) I'm just jealous that's all.) I have purchased several knives and not all Spydercos. I am of the opinion that Spyderco has some of the best CQ standards in the business. I have received a few Spydies that I didn't want to keep based on a quirk. But that's me. I will still continue to patron Spyderco because I like what they are selling. Interesting thread.
I wanted to add that I use about a dozen factory seconds which I do not consider "bad" even though Spyderco does. So while their QC will miss a few, in general they have high standards.
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- William James, from The Will to Believe, a guest lecture at Yale University in 1897
- William James, from The Will to Believe, a guest lecture at Yale University in 1897
Absolutely. If percentage taken from insufficient sample, it will not reflect percentage from entire population.jtoler_9 wrote:Percentage I think might also be a bit misleading.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf"
My top choices Natives5, Calys, C83 Persian
My top choices Natives5, Calys, C83 Persian
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True, percentage wouldnt be good either now that I think about it. You really need individual posts saying how many knives purchased and how many knives were defective.
My criteria may differ from some but this is what I look for. Obviously there shouldnt be any blemishes on the blade or handle material. The blade should nkt be rubbing against the inside of the handle, centered is prefered, but as long as it isnt touching. Their shouldnt be any blade play and if there is some it should be minor. Lastly, the knife better be sharp, at least being able to cut through paper. Doesnt have to be shaving hair but it has to have some level of sharpness.
My criteria may differ from some but this is what I look for. Obviously there shouldnt be any blemishes on the blade or handle material. The blade should nkt be rubbing against the inside of the handle, centered is prefered, but as long as it isnt touching. Their shouldnt be any blade play and if there is some it should be minor. Lastly, the knife better be sharp, at least being able to cut through paper. Doesnt have to be shaving hair but it has to have some level of sharpness.
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I own one factory 2nd that I knew had locking issues when I bought it and I own 2 factory 2nds that apart from the nick in the blade have no issues I can tell.
I once returned a knife that had a nice design feature I thought to be a defect at the time to show I am a fool or at least engineering challenged.
I once returned a knife that had a nice design feature I thought to be a defect at the time to show I am a fool or at least engineering challenged.
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The most accurate way would be for everyone to write X/Y, then we add up all the X's and divide them by all the Y's. Then, it still wouldn't be accurate because we have such a small sample of people. Anyways, looking at the graph... it doesn't look too bad... somewhere around 1/3 have problems? And another inaccuracy is that you have no idea what people consider bad. Is it that there's a scratch, a streak, slight misalignment, or is it something serious, like a lock that doesn't, or a knife with cracks?
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The only Spyderco I've bought new had various fit and finish issues. It later developed a fair amount of blade play up/down due to my use. I also feel the lock jump up a bit when I cut through harder materials (mostly kitchen tasks like cutting apples, yams. Those are what come to mind). I believe that's a function of it being a lockback though. It's not a very comfortable feeling either way you put it.
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I've owned probably close to about 120 Spydies. Out of that 120, I've had maybe 3 that needed returned to Spyderco for a looking at.
Spyderco does a **** good job of keeping the QC percentages high in my book.
Spyderco does a **** good job of keeping the QC percentages high in my book.
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I've had a few with minor edge bevel asymmetries and one that is a hint snug at the pivot when you tighten the stop pin but both are pretty minor. Really I'd say zero. I've been very satisfied.
In terms of quality of fit and finish, and we're talking strictly recently, I've been most pleased with the work coming out of Taichung followed second by Golden CO. Seki City is a little more hit or miss, although I assume they have more than one maker over there. Some of the Seki stuff has an impeccable level of F&F whereas others are less than perfect. Ultimately I'm splitting hairs here because its all pretty impressive QC, but where differences can be discerned......
In terms of quality of fit and finish, and we're talking strictly recently, I've been most pleased with the work coming out of Taichung followed second by Golden CO. Seki City is a little more hit or miss, although I assume they have more than one maker over there. Some of the Seki stuff has an impeccable level of F&F whereas others are less than perfect. Ultimately I'm splitting hairs here because its all pretty impressive QC, but where differences can be discerned......
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Of the 75 or so Spydies I've owned, only one ever had to go back for warranty repair. Another one was incredibly gritty (cleaned out fine), two had some minor grind issues (functionally they're fine), and one has a slightly warped blade (the Calypso Jr, which was notorious for that problem). Aside from the one sent back for warranty, I use all the others that have "problems" and they work as they should. If I were to hand one of them to someone else to use, they most likely wouldn't even notice there was anything off. I tend to be a bit OCD so I notice the imperfections, but at the same time I keep my expectations in line with the price I pay and have no reason to complain. I love my Spyderco, imperfections and all!
Customs are nice and will get you close to perfection. It's like cars, if you buy a Corvette, you're not getting a Ferrari. But for the price of one Ferrari, I can get a Lexus, F350 Super Duty, FJ Cruiser, and a Prius.
Customs are nice and will get you close to perfection. It's like cars, if you buy a Corvette, you're not getting a Ferrari. But for the price of one Ferrari, I can get a Lexus, F350 Super Duty, FJ Cruiser, and a Prius.
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Cha ching!!! :DHighDesertSpyder wrote: :spyder:
Cha Ching!!! And, might I add that Spydercos are like Pizza, even if it's bad, it's still pretty good... am I right? :eek:
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