And others feel strongly that it was not, and that all he accomplished was to make Spyderco spend time and effort to "fix" a non-existent problem by overbuilding an already well built folder.Slash wrote:I believe Ankerson did a fair and accurate review of the knife. The only way to improve ANY product is to fully test out the functionality of it. Yes, Spyderco did something to fix the lock...for the better. Don't let one persons views affect your own determination of the Manix 2. Buy one, I'm sure you'll like it.
Manix 2 lock fails hard-use test [VID] -- thoughts?
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There was no issue with the lock. If there was an issue with the lock, it was addressed when Spyderco made very small changes in the lock some time back, probably about a year now. So, any current production reflects those changes. :rolleyes: As a result, you can use a Manix 2 with perfect confidence when you skin your dead horse before beating it yet again. :D
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40,000 views says people like reading about beating up a dead horse. hit it hard enough and it might just come back to life?
curious though if someone from r & d could explain the strength on the manix 2 or what type of tests were performed on this, and other knives.
while I always make my own assumptions. it's nice to see how things are done.
more info. about a particular product can only influence my buying decisions. :)
after all, who buys a car or a tv these days w/o first going on the internet and reading all there is to know about it?
just my 2 cents.
curious though if someone from r & d could explain the strength on the manix 2 or what type of tests were performed on this, and other knives.
while I always make my own assumptions. it's nice to see how things are done.
more info. about a particular product can only influence my buying decisions. :)
after all, who buys a car or a tv these days w/o first going on the internet and reading all there is to know about it?
just my 2 cents.
Sal has personally addressed this numerous times within this thread and outside it. The knife was specifically tweaked to prevent a particular activity that 99.99% of owners would have never experienced (the overstrike test).Slash wrote:40,000 views says people like reading about beating up a dead horse. hit it hard enough and it might just come back to life?
curious though if someone from r & d could explain the strength on the manix 2 or what type of tests were performed on this, and other knives.
while I always make my own assumptions. it's nice to see how things are done.
more info. about a particular product can only influence my buying decisions. :)
after all, who buys a car or a tv these days w/o first going on the internet and reading all there is to know about it?
just my 2 cents.
The Manix2 (before and after the "fix") is a MBC or "very heavy duty" lock. This means it's rated to withstand torque of 200 lbs/inch of greater per blade inch. In this case approx 700 lbs give or take.
It's prob up to most people's use. That is, unless you arrived from Krypton in a funny metal pod as an infant.
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Sorry, that thread was too long for me to read through it all - I read a few pages and then got tired. I didn't mean any harm by bringing it back up though - really.captnvegtble wrote:Someone obviously didn't read post #424 asking to never have this thread brought back again.
I was under the impression something was wrong with the lock, but I can there's nothing wrong, so I'll leave it at that for sure.
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gunnut35 wrote:LoL
Are you serious? :D
No, I'm not serious, and I was just joking around chipdouglas... no need to apologize. I certainly didn't expect anybody to read through all 450 posts. This was just a painful thread to read through for multiple reasons when it was active and I was dismayed to see it pop back up.chipdouglas wrote:Sorry, that thread was too long for me to read through it all - I read a few pages and then got tired. I didn't mean any harm by bringing it back up though - really.
I was under the impression something was wrong with the lock, but I can there's nothing wrong, so I'll leave it at that for sure.
You did nothing wrong.chipdouglas wrote:Sorry, that thread was too long for me to read through it all - I read a few pages and then got tired. I didn't mean any harm by bringing it back up though - really.
I was under the impression something was wrong with the lock, but I can there's nothing wrong, so I'll leave it at that for sure.
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captnvegtble wrote:No, I'm not serious, and I was just joking around chipdouglas... no need to apologize. I certainly didn't expect anybody to read through all 450 posts. This was just a painful thread to read through for multiple reasons when it was active and I was dismayed to see it pop back up.
LOL, Ok I see - that was all a big joke then, that's cool - I just thought I might have ruffled some feathers :D
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I just ordered a Manix 2. I thought I did not "need" one.I was wrong about my H1 Spyderhawk,I needed it. I bought a UKPK in GIN 1 after hearing about how good the steel really is.It is a beautifull steel,as I was told and holds a good edge.Whenever I doubt a Spyderco product I tend to want to see/try the good and the bad and the ugly for myself.I have NEVER been disapponinted by any of my numerous Spydercos.I own many brands and mostly Spydercos.I have been turned off by other makers design flaws but never had a disagreeable Spyderco once I tried it out for myself but I MUST confess I waited a year or so just to be sure I got the newer model because Im low BS and never ever ever want to send anything back to the manufacture.I expect everything in the world to be tick tock perfect always-Im unrealistic.Sorry for the ranting but IF my picky *** will buy this knife I know most people would not hesitate to buy it.I now know the Manix 2 coming to me will be great.
Yes indeed. Manix2 is a great knife with a great lock. Sure its not a blacksmith's anvil, but if you want one of them you should get a blacksmith's anvil. I do understand why this post is so long, many feelings were hurt in not wanting to believe that the lock really wont stand up with other designs in a certain test. I think going further is asking why. I guess it is like having a $5k Omega watch rated to be water resistant down to 300 meters. Will anyone wear a luxury watch down to 300 meters? No, but it is nice to know that it will be fine when you drop it in the sink. So my two cents is that it is a great knife, excels at cutting tasks, one of the smoothest folders I have ever come across and comfortable to boot. Since the test though, you won't get the same piece of mind you would get from another knife who's lock did not fail. Meaningless test? Only for some.
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I'm glad your confidence is high now. You won't be disappointed. I've had two Manix2 knives. The black blade 154CM that I traded because I had another one that I used more often. They are great knives. I'd also like to mention that in a lot of the videos where knives fail they are being seriously abused, being treated like a folding knife should not be treated. The time the Manix2 failed the guy was trying to break it, nothing short of that. I appreciate his many efforts in this area because that way I get to see a lot without doing bad things to MY knives. :D Anyway, the Manix2 failed performing a task it should not be asked to do in real life (not a test). I have taken my Manix2 apart and seeing exactly how the lock works I know why his failed. It could have just had a little dirt in the lock. Even so, Spyderco looked into it and corrected any problem.TrojanDonkey wrote:I just ordered a Manix 2. I thought I did not "need" one.I was wrong about my H1 Spyderhawk,I needed it. I bought a UKPK in GIN 1 after hearing about how good the steel really is.It is a beautifull steel,as I was told and holds a good edge.Whenever I doubt a Spyderco product I tend to want to see/try the good and the bad and the ugly for myself.I have NEVER been disapponinted by any of my numerous Spydercos.I own many brands and mostly Spydercos.I have been turned off by other makers design flaws but never had a disagreeable Spyderco once I tried it out for myself but I MUST confess I waited a year or so just to be sure I got the newer model because Im low BS and never ever ever want to send anything back to the manufacture.I expect everything in the world to be tick tock perfect always-Im unrealistic.Sorry for the ranting but IF my picky *** will buy this knife I know most people would not hesitate to buy it.I now know the Manix 2 coming to me will be great.
I think we saw the same video. :) Anyway you will have a great knife IMO.
Jack
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Hey Jack, I'm glad that you are 100 percent sure of what you will not ask your knives to do in real life. Some of us are not as certain as you are.jackknifeh wrote: :D Anyway, the Manix2 failed performing a task it should not be asked to do in real life (not a test). ...
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