OK, I finally found a good reason why a linerlock should be strong.

[LeathermanFan]

I made a thread asking if you can batton with the Spyderco Tenacious, and some people said yes, but for the most part if you use a knife the proper way you wouldn't even need to worry about the linerlock.

Well, this guy in this youtube video actually scrapes a piece of wood with the back of his knife so he can use it to light fires.

Also, while I am on the subject of lighting fires. You can also use the back of a knife to scrape a magnesium fire starter without destroying the edge of your blade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v27qheVN ... ideo_title

[Evil D]

Neither of those actions should be enough to push the limits of a lock and make it fail...at least not like battoning would do.

[unit]

Agree that it won't approach the limits of a good lock BUT I still would advise caution. It is dangerous with a fixed blade. A folder adds a level of danger with accidental release (which is not a lock failure or weakness).

I do a fair bit of fire making and I use the spine of a knife as a striker almost never. Many guys do, but I prefer a dedicated striker that I keep tethered to every fire steel I own.

Interesting video though. I never felt like making wood shavings deteriorated my edges much. I like making feather sticks as tinder.

I am happy to read of others here using Spydercos for fire making. Knives and fire...good stuff

[yablanowitz]

I wonder if it has ever occurred to those people that if you are using the spine of the blade anyway, the knife doesn't have to be open. Why take the chance of the lock slipping and letting the blade close on your fingers when you can leave the edge safely tucked away? I guess basic knife safety is too complex for people to learn these days.

[Donut]

I didn't get to watch the video, but why would striking a fire steel or scraping the spine of the knife on some wood affect a liner lock? Both of these things can be done with the knife closed and not affect the lock at all.

[unit]

He uses a fixed blade in the video.

[Evil D]

I wonder if it has ever occurred to those people that if you are using the spine of the blade anyway, the knife doesn't have to be open. Why take the chance of the lock slipping and letting the blade close on your fingers when you can leave the edge safely tucked away? I guess basic knife safety is too complex for people to learn these days.

Very good point. I think it's just another excuse to debate the lock failure issue.

[chuck_roxas45]

Ah, I see. And the OP thinks that what a fixed blade handles with aplomb should be doable with a linerlock. Pretty good huh?

[LeathermanFan]

He uses a fixed blade in the video.

Ah, I see. And the OP thinks that what a fixed blade handles with aplomb should be doable with a linerlock. Pretty good huh?

He uses a linerlock Leatherman Multi-Tool halfway through the youtube video.

[cosmo7809]

I made a thread asking if you can batton with the Spyderco Tenacious, and some people said yes, but for the most part if you use a knife the proper way you wouldn't even need to worry about the linerlock.

Well, this guy in this youtube video actually scrapes a piece of wood with the back of his knife so he can use it to light fires.

Also, while I am on the subject of lighting fires. You can also use the back of a knife to scrape a magnesium fire starter without destroying the edge of your blade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v27qheVN ... ideo_title

But what does batoning with a tenacious have to do with scraping a piece of wood have to do with scraping the back of a magnesium fire starter?

I dont understand the point of the thread.


Note: Dont take this the wrong way.. Im just a little :confused:

[unit]

Yeah I am starting to wonder about this whole thing too...and what it has to do with Spyderco general discussion.

[chuck_roxas45]

LOL. No wonder I'm so confused here. But then I'm not so clear in the best of times. :D

[Blerv]

All folders are nearly as strong as a fixed blade when cutting properly. To exert force needed to snap a blade from spine to backspaces you would need to be a super hero :p .

Most lock issues come from lateral torque and twisting loads. Avoid using the spine for an ice hammer and few knives will ever endanger your fingers (especially a Spyderco!!).

[vic]

if you baton anything bigger than a twig with a tenacious or a similar liner lock knife you will break it for sure

[The Deacon]

Folks make YouTube videos of themselves engaging in inappropriate behaviors of all kinds, some get injured, some get lucky. Getting lucky does not make the behavior any less inappropriate. If you're headed into the woods and have enough presence of mind to bring along neatly sawn fat wood sticks, you should have enough presence of mind to carry a fixed blade knife. But, faced with a supply of fat wood, a need for fire, and only a folder, I'd either scrape with the edge of the blade, do as Yab suggested and scrape with the knife closed, or go really primitive and find a sharp edged stone to scrape it with.

[Toyz]

Treat all folding knives as though they are slipjoints and your fingers will appreciate it.

There is no substitute for a well made fixed blade knife.

Pair a good fixed blade with a good folder and you have a winning combination.

[unit]

It is early here, but I am going to go ahead and pop some corn.

Later we can baton some sandwiches (with slippies of course).

[chuck_roxas45]

Later we can baton some sandwiches (with slippies of course).

Are you sure about that Ken? Those fail the spine whack test every time.

I dunno if creamy or crunchy makes a difference in how your knife batons though.

[Ankerson]

Certain knives are ment for certain things, others aren't.

If going out in the field take a FB or a heavy duty folder, FB would be better though.

Even better carry one of each, leave the folder in the pocket when doing heavy work in the field and use the FB for those tasks.

[unit]

Certain knives are ment for certain things, others aren't.

If going out in the field take a FB or a heavy duty folder, FB would be better though.

Even better carry one of each, leave the folder in the pocket when doing heavy work in the field and use the FB for those tasks.

That is what I do and my fine folder edge never degrades from wood processing