My Navaja Caracas Broke :(

[shimage]

Thats kinda what I think.Or perhaps there was to much torx/pressure put on the screw that holds it in place.I think with mine, it snapped where the screw is then fell down into the rachet and snapped the tip off.

Is the knife still apart? I am curious to know if, on the bolster, there is wear on one of the corners where the channel meets the hole (the one closest to the spine of the knife). The spring is not the same shape as the hole it sits in, and I'm wondering if spring presses on (and rubs against) the corner.

[Armalite Native]

I am wondering if there is a preventative measure that can be taken to stop it breaking in the first place. Sending a knife back to the US is not an option for some of us. If we loosen the screw a little that holds the spring in place that would relieve the stress on the part?

I am pretty worried about this now.

[Creepo]

I am wondering if there is a preventative measure that can be taken to stop it breaking in the first place. Sending a knife back to the US is not an option for some of us. If we loosen the screw a little that holds the spring in place that would relieve the stress on the part?

I am pretty worried about this now.

If the spring is one of the lemons, I doubt there is much that can be done. Since it is a new model they don't stock spare parts yet. But in the future they will have spare parts available and if problems arise they will for sure send replacement springs no matter where you live. :)

[rosconey]

little springs like that get hot quick-they break under repeated use-
over the coarse of a day you might open your knife 10 times,but when its a toy you sit and play with it-been there done that didnt have enough for the tshirt-
snapped the spring in my zdp mini cyclone -lol

heck i cant count the hours i sat and played with my new g&g hawk with the ikbs system-dang thing is just so smooth you cant help but play with it


add in this one makes noise :eek: who wouldnt sit and play with it for hours- :D

[nirvanero]

I'm not big fan of the sound (too soft for my taste) and if someday mine stops playing I don't know if I'll fix it, but thanks to the OP photos I think it would be not that hard with a little patience... :)

[Bruce]

Here is something straight off the warranty page BTW.

It says that damage caused by disassembling voids the warranty, not disassembling itself.

[Armalite Native]

It says that damage caused by disassembling voids the warranty, not disassembling itself.

Thanks all for the replies. I am hoping if it happens to me and I tell Spyderco where I am unlucky enough to live that they might send out the part if I pay for a few extra springs. Its still interesting what Bruce has noticed. I am pretty sure with Emerson and CS that disassembly are expected for maintenence anyway. I find it hard to understand how any experienced user could actually damage such simple mechanisms by taking the knife apart in a careful fashion.

Of couse I suppose there are people out there who might try to use a powerdrill to take something apart - but such an idea is mind boggling.

I am not normally such a negative person - but I expect a level of performance for a 200 dollar knife. Stress testing should occur before a modles release regardless. Someone mentioned heat perhaps playing a roll. I suppose in the US its summer (or close to it). Factor that in plus the friction of the spring dragging across the cog hard and perhaps that may be the cause?

I know without a shadow of a doubt that Ed is probably all over this issue - from the little I have seen of him he seems to remind me alot of Sal in his level of attention to detail. When he finally comes back with some sort of idea of whats going on it will help to inform the rest of us. Unlike some I know Spyderco is pretty open with fixing design issues - so thats a comfort at least.

[RangeR]

Uh oh, my spring just broke. I just got this knife last week but I've been playing with it a little everyday..it's probably my favorite knife. I've played with this thing so much that it feels weird opening a folder that doesn't click. I'm not too worried because I trust that Spyderco is on top of fixing this issue :) .

[jonUSA,EARTH]

Uh oh, my spring just broke. I just got this knife last week but I've been playing with it a little everyday..it's probably my favorite knife. I've played with this thing so much that it feels weird opening a folder that doesn't click. I'm not too worried because I trust that Spyderco is on top of fixing this issue :) .

hmmm..I guess its not so isolated of an incident.I wonder how many people that don't frequent the forums as much are having caracas issues?

Such a shame because like many have stated including myself, this knife is super top shelf in the quality department.

I've still been carrying and using mine daily, and to be honest I've all but forgotton about the sound.I guess it was good it happened early on so I didn't get used to it :D

You're right though, Spyderco's CS is A++.They will most certainly address the issue.

[Armalite Native]

Well I just picked mine up. Everyone is right - its an amazing knife. Been collecting for several years and yep it is unique. So the countdown begins. I have opened mine 20 times and its going ok. I wonder if the speed of the deploy is a factor in the breaking spring. I am opening mine a bit more carefully as a result. If my spring goes also I will post back.

Regardless - it IS a great knife spring or not and Ed should really be congratulated (again) for such attention to detail. I won't edc this knife - but just because its too **** pretty. I think it could serve in prettymuch any role cept batoning.

If you are reading this thread and you are still unsure - get one anyway. Spring or no its a great knife.

[ChrisR]

Stress testing should occur before a modles release regardless. Someone mentioned heat perhaps playing a roll. I suppose in the US its summer (or close to it). Factor that in plus the friction of the spring dragging across the cog hard and perhaps that may be the cause?

That's one reason I think it must be something to do with the assembly of individual knives. Stress testing will be done on a few individual knives that have been assembled correctly and we know Spyderco are very conscientious with testing and QC. If there was an inherent design or materials problem then we'd have seen more failures and it would have been picked up in testing - that leaves assembly problems or random materials failure (bad batches of springs or a faulty rig introducing stress lines in the material), in my opinion anyway.

[Michael Cook]

:spyder: Man, this thread's gone on too long, soon this thread will be the beginning of a "navaja springs break" meme causing sales to go down and a good knife to get disco'ed before I can save the money to buy one! :mad: We all know Sal will fix what's wrong and make good, let's give him the time to make it right! :spyder:

[jonUSA,EARTH]

:spyder: [/B]Man, this thread's gone on too long, soon this thread will be the beginning of a "navaja springs break" meme causing sales to go down and a good knife to get disco'ed before I can save the money to buy one! :mad: We all know Sal will fix what's wrong and make good, let's give him the time to make it right! :spyder:

That is What this thread is about :confused:

and isn't this the point of a forum.To discuss knives and bring forth potential problems and also to praise them?

[gunnut35]

:spyder: Man, this thread's gone on too long, soon this thread will be the beginning of a "navaja springs break" meme causing sales to go down and a good knife to get disco'ed before I can save the money to buy one! :mad: We all know Sal will fix what's wrong and make good, let's give him the time to make it right! :spyder:

I have not seen the OP really say anything negative and so far everyone has been really open to try to learn from this post.
Is that not what theses forums are for?

[Michael Cook]

I have not seen the OP really say anything negative and so far everyone has been really open to try to learn from this post.
Is that not what theses forums are for?

:spyder: I'm not talkin' 'bout the good folks here but the masses out there in internet land who like to poo poo good products with rehashed hyperbole. :o :spyder:

[Kohbanang]

Hey all
Sorry that i must write that my spring also just broke .I am sorry about that but for me it will also work good without the sound.I know that :spyder: will repair them,but shipping coast from Austria are to expensive,maybe i can hit one with an order at the store.Order every mule come out,any knows how i can make this on this way to get my broken spring? :confused:

What i can say is that the quality of this knive is awesome! I take apart it and the only thing i can review is that some parts realy sharp(particularly blade and locker),but can make them easy soft with sandpaper.
By assembly no problems that every piece fits perfekt. :cool:

Is it possible that the spring brake because some problems with the heat treating? :confused:

I do not want make negative review,But i think sal and spyderco will always make their best job,and are in appreciation of our help,to clean out some little problems with the feedback of the forum here.See review at spyderco product guide 2011 page 19 Para Military2 "Because we love upgrades!
Thanks Spyderco for the lot of beautiful knives.

:spyder: count ~90 going up

[wallace]

I bought mine july 2011 and by october it stopped making the ratchet sound. I like the knife but am def disappointed in the failure. I basicly cut nothing w it so it def broke by just flipping it in an out like normal. Does anyone know what the course of action would be to get it fixed?

[The Deacon]

I bought mine july 2011 and by october it stopped making the ratchet sound. I like the knife but am def disappointed in the failure. I basicly cut nothing w it so it def broke by just flipping it in an out like normal. Does anyone know what the course of action would be to get it fixed?

Send it to Spyderco Warranty & Repair.

[BAL]

They should have spare parts by Spring Break.

[Rockcrawler]

Sent mine in a couple weeks ago for this exact issue, arrived in Golden on the 30th of December, haven't heard anything about cost of repair. What is the normal turn around for knives sent in?