Anybody here ever batton with Spyderco Tenacious?

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Anybody here ever batton with Spyderco Tenacious?

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I am just wondering.
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LeathermanFan wrote:I am just wondering.
unless it was life and death, i wouldn't recommend battoning with anything but a fixed blade. Just my $.02

sorry, didn't answer the question. Nope, never battoned with my tenacious!
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pmbspyder wrote:unless it was life and death, i wouldn't recommend battoning with anything but a fixed blade. Just my $.02

sorry, didn't answer the question. Nope, never battoned with my tenacious!
Thanks for the useful information anyway.
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My sister tried, found it didn't twirl well.
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Teddy Thompson wrote:My sister tried, found it didn't twirl well.
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Never tried and would not recommend it...even in a life or death situation. There are better ways to process wood if you only have a folder.

I rarely baton with a fixed blade either though.
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No, nor would I. I do not baton with any knife.
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Although I've not done it myself, I read that the only correct way to do it with a folder is to disengage the lock and baton. Doing so while locked is a sure way to quickly destroy the locking mechanism.
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As others have already mentioned, not a good idea; overall.
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I have not. However, in an extreme emergency, survival scenario, or life or death situation, concern about destroying the knife or damaging the locking mechanism would not rank very high on the list of priorities. Save yourself first. Worry about replacing the knife last.
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Jay_Ev wrote:I have not. However, in an extreme emergency, survival scenario, or life or death situation, concern about destroying the knife or damaging the locking mechanism would not rank very high on the list of priorities. Save yourself first. Worry about replacing the knife last.
but you may need it later in the same survival scenario...
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cckw wrote:
Jay_Ev wrote:I have not. However, in an extreme emergency, survival scenario, or life or death situation, concern about destroying the knife or damaging the locking mechanism would not rank very high on the list of priorities. Save yourself first. Worry about replacing the knife last.
but you may need it later in the same survival scenario...
Exactly.

How likely is someone finding themselves in a situation where batoning with a folder is a matter of life or death. I think it far more likely that the risk of destroying, or seriously impairing the usefulness of a tool their life may depend on later in order to perform one task which, by using their head, they could probably avoid performing, would be ill advised.
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cckw wrote:but you may need it later in the same survival scenario...
Exactly.

I have been in the woods many times and processed wood many many times for the purpose of building fires. The idea that one must baton in order to build a fire is lost on me.

I get that there are times that everything is wet and you must process to get to dry wood, but lets examine this issue a bit shall we?

The edge on this knife is 3 3/8 inch long...so you can process (via batoning) a log up to about 3 inches in diameter.

I can and have processed logs this size with a folder many times without batoning and have done so in in a manner that practically guarantees the knife will be functional afterward. I could not be so optimistic about batoning with a folder.

At the end of the day, we all have choices on the risks we take and how we choose to enjoy our knives. My personal choice is to not baton with a folder...I am not saying that anyone should necessarily follow my decisions, but I have never been convinced that the wise choice is to baton with a folder when alternate methods work with less risk and only a small time penalty.

Obviously, my whole post revolves around the assumption that we are desiring to process wood for the purpose of building fires. If there is another reason to baton, please enlighten me. My reality may be skewed...I use my knives for wood carving and outdoors type use (hiking and camping).

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i would think the effort would be better served allowing yourself more time to gather tinder rather than try to make some. imo most of this is garbage you see on the net. theres not a real need for it for making fires. i make a dozen outdoor fires every summer and have yet needed to baton any wood.
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Batoning with an inexpensive and much tougher hatchet would be preferable.
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cckw wrote:but you may need it later in the same survival scenario...
By the same token, if you had a gun instead of a knife, you shouldn't bother shooting anything because you might need the bullets later on in the same survival situation.

You have to use what you have as the situation dictates. If the knife gets ruined in the interest of staying alive, so be it.
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This is scary just thinking about it...
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Jay_Ev wrote:By the same token, if you had a gun instead of a knife, you shouldn't bother shooting anything because you might need the bullets later on in the same survival situation.

You have to use what you have as the situation dictates. If the knife gets ruined in the interest of staying alive, so be it.
I respectfully disagree. The gun is designed precisely for shooting things. By contrast the folding knife is not designed to be hammered with a batan.

I by the SAME token, if you are in the life/death situation with one bullet and a gun you should not hammer it into something with a baton because it potentially can be far more useful for other needs.

Going a step further if the knife gets ruined PRIOR to fully serving the interest of keeping you alive....
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Teddy Thompson wrote:My sister tried, found it didn't twirl well.
Teddy, thank you. This one post made the entire thread.

It can be closed after that post.


My answer to the OP is... can't you baton with a folder without the lock engaged? The reason for having the lock engaged is to make use of the handle. When you're hitting the back of the blade I don't think having the lock engaged is too critical.

Of course, be careful, watch how you're holding it.

I would NOT be batoning lengthwise for any reason. You can cut down a tree by batoning sideways carefully and your feather sticks have some use, but I think you can find small pieces of dead wood and leaves with no problem.

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If there is absolutely no deadwood to make a survival fire, immediately stop and look around, you are not lost, you just became disoriented in the campground.

Possible exception, you are making a YouTube knife abuse video. ;)
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