Rescue with centerpunch

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I think a carbide striker in place of handle spacers would be a good idea.

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Anyone know about changes proposed for window glass in US vehicles which are alledged to make pin-punches and the like less useful? I heard (somewhere) that new requirements would result in side window glass being more heavilly laminated, thus they would crack, but hold together like windshields. If so, your carbide punch would need to be accompanied by a safety hammer (or similar implement). Anyone?

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IMO in that situation, if I got nothing else, I'd try to use the "pommel" of the rescue to try to shatter it. Afterall, if they're created like windshield class, they're not suppose to have sharp shards (like tempered class) and in an emergency, I'd probably do the same whether I got hammer or not.
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calyth:

having been in two incidents where the door window of a car has been shattered, the glass is still sharp. It is much less dangerous because the pieces are not large pointy shards, just small and circular, kind of like very sharp pea gravel.

If you use the pomel of your knife to finish busting the window, I think you would likely cut your hand. The cuts would not be life-threatening, however.

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Well I've let this thread rested enough, any new information about this version of the rescue? I'm very tempted to get Normark to make a sheath and find a secure place to put this in the car.
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At first I thought that would be a great idea! But only if they sell it to police and firefighters. I can see it now in my town!
Gang Bangers have a field day on parked cars. Insurance rates double!

Provided your deductable covers it!!!!!!
Good Idea! Bad Idea!

Not that they couldn't just use a regular center punch or hammer or whatever!

But when combined with a knife-what fun-better than a can of spray paint!!!!!

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ken,
So, you're saying that because car thiefs steal cars by prying the plastic around the ignition key with a slot screwdriver, that screwdriver manufacturers should restrict the sales of all slot screwdriver, including those multiple bit screwdrivers, to police only because these gangbanger will run around excited to steal cars.
To just automatically assign the human deviance to an object, in general, is a very irresponsible association. To say that Spyderco should not sell the rescue with a center punch is no exception - for myself, drugs are the only thing that I would consider restriction based on its nature. What you're saying is no different from people who immediately associate guns and knives to crime. Guns and knives and yes, centerpunchs, are tools and potentially a weapon - weapon of physical harm or a weapon of criminal deviance - but that does not mean that it should automatically be banned because people use them with an evil intent.

Edited by - calyth on 12/18/2002 9:55:38 PM
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Calyth-

Your reading "WAY" too much into what I said! I just see a downside to something designed for a good purpose! Like what you had in mind. But the fact is, and it is to bad but we live in a society where we have to have restrictions/laws on "things" because they were not used for there intended purpose! And this sucks. Look around because there are restrictions everywhere.

And it is easy to see why people associate guns and knives to crimes - because most crimes are commited with them.

Anyway we don't really have any of those problems here in the land of "OZ".

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Well I hope I didn't offended you....
I'm a bit dull today (from the cold meds) and I somehow couldn't sense your sarcasm that when I look back, seems quite plausible, if not apparent.
The wonders of the Internet have yet to solve the fact that we can't communicate emotion well when compared to a real discussion.
And yes, I'm really disgusted at the fact that some people out that would (likely) think that centerpunchs should not be made public.
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glass that's hard to break??? why, that's what the 6Dcell maglite in my truck is for!... heh heh heh....take care all



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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:<hr height=1 noshade>glass that's hard to break??? why, that's what the 6Dcell maglite in my truck is for!... heh heh heh....take care all <hr height=1 noshade></BLOCKQUOTE></font><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2>

<b>Ban sven's Maglite! Ban sven's Maglite! </b>

Sorry but for Ken's sake I just couldn't resist that.

Most crimes are committed with knives and guns??? Maybe most crimes of violence but I'll wager computer crimes, fraud, embezzlement, sexual abuse, shoplifting, traffic violations, and other forms of white-collar, blue collar, yeller collar, or any other type of collar crimes, far outnumber immediate crimes of violence committed with a gun or knife.

I can understand seeing a possible downside here but life is full of little trade-offs. IMO, the potential for good far outweighs the potential for bad and we'll just have to watch out for the occasional whacko. With the potential to injure oneself using such a knife improperly, we'll probably see a few of these idjits at the ER trying to explain how they cut themselves up - with a little luck maybe one will earn a Darwin Award. Hope for the best and teach others by using our own knives properly! Just my $.02 worth.





<b><font color="blue">"A hole-less knife is a soul-less knife is a whole less knife" -Javanese proverb </font> </b>

Edited by - java on 12/19/2002 3:01:25 AM
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To be honest, even if the Rescue becomes a weapon (even for self defence), it won't be very good because the sheepsfoot blade makes it harder to make fatal strikes. It's still going to cut but at least it ain't going to stab.
I hope to see this version to come out soon. I'm quite interested at the Rescue but never got around to get the money for it.
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