Our state attorney general is an idiot!
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Our state attorney general is an idiot!
She would like to make public a list of all people who have a FOID card in the state. Nothing like giving the criminals all the names of the gun owners so they know which house to rob. Absolute idiocy :mad: .
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I think that this is asinine. If they put my name out in the open that is putting my family at risk. My 89 year old grandma would have a heart attack if someone tried to rob us. And for what? I don't even live in Illinois, I am in college, and if they were trying to find my guns at my house there and didn't they could turn on her or my parents and it would be Lisa Madigan's fault.
I have had my FOID card for a year now and still haven't even purchased my firearm as I haven't turned 21 and cannot purchase a handgun until then.
I hope that this burns but if it doesn't it could potentially force my hand to give up my rights to own a firearm in Illinois. Thank god for good old gunslingin Minnesota!
I have had my FOID card for a year now and still haven't even purchased my firearm as I haven't turned 21 and cannot purchase a handgun until then.
I hope that this burns but if it doesn't it could potentially force my hand to give up my rights to own a firearm in Illinois. Thank god for good old gunslingin Minnesota!
Do they give any reason for wanting to do this? I can't think of one.
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Where's the ACLU on this one?!?! Definately sounds like the actions of .gov will be causing undue persecution on the citizens for simply exercising their Constitutional rights.
I imagine this woman had to take an oath of office. What happened to upholding and defending the Constitution?
I imagine this woman had to take an oath of office. What happened to upholding and defending the Constitution?
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Local newspaper published a link to all the concealed carry permit holders a couple of years back. Serious sh*tstorm over that and you can be sure it won't be happening again.racer88 wrote:This has come up in other cities like Memphis, TN (if I recall). But, I think it was the local paper that did it.
No S**T, where is the ACLU on guns, knives etc.?!! Am I the only "card carrying member" of both the ACLU and the NRA? :mad:Manchu wrote:Where's the ACLU on this one?!?! Definately sounds like the actions of .gov will be causing undue persecution on the citizens for simply exercising their Constitutional rights.
She is acting on behalf of the Associated Press. They asked for the info. under a Freedom of Information request. Illinois State Police are fighting the request and it will probably end up in the courts unless the Illinois State Legislature acts.
So we have busy-body journalists trying to raise a stink about guns and a busy-body attorney general trying to help them. I hope Illinois FOID owners make a huge fuss about this. :mad:
So we have busy-body journalists trying to raise a stink about guns and a busy-body attorney general trying to help them. I hope Illinois FOID owners make a huge fuss about this. :mad:
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racer88 wrote:This has come up in other cities like Memphis, TN (if I recall). But, I think it was the local paper that did it. So, some local gun owners took it upon themselves to publicly disseminate the home addresses for various principles of the newspaper, including the editor.
Hmmmmm.... just sayin'.
LMAO! I love it!
I've read about that happening elsewhere, too. Great idea.
After all, this was precipitated by an ASSOCIATED PRESS request.
WTF does the ASSociated Press want with the list of gun owners anyway?!
They should have to explicitly explain how their having this list would accomplish a needed good.
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I confronted the ACLU about their abrogation of the RKBA in a missive I sent back in lieu of a renewal payment.2cha wrote:No S**T, where is the ACLU on guns, knives etc.?!! Am I the only "card carrying member" of both the ACLU and the NRA? :mad:
I received back the biggest load of bulls#!t; some PR woman packed some photocopies of articles that ostensibly would explain how the RKBA is a "collective right" and not an individual right, so they didn't need to protect it. Also included was an article about the infamous -- and thoroughly fraudulent and debunked -- "Kellerman study" (the one that claims that a gun kept in the home is 43 times more likely blah blah blah.").
Those disingenuous, mendacious morons were actually trying to propagandize me into believing that there really is no RKBA, and if there were, it would be more dangerous than it was worth.
I wonder of those lying fools still send that s#!t out after the Heller decision.
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Not that I agree with what is being done, but wouldn't publishing the names of people who have guns in their homes make it worse for the people who don't, such as the state attorney general?
It is just like that joke picture that said something like "I have a gun but my neighbor doesn't *points over there*"
I mean if I was a robber and I knew one house had a firearm and the other didn't I'd take the house that didn't.
It is just like that joke picture that said something like "I have a gun but my neighbor doesn't *points over there*"
I mean if I was a robber and I knew one house had a firearm and the other didn't I'd take the house that didn't.
Or, if you needed a gun and couldn't buy one due to age, or legal/mental disability, you could wait until I went to work and then steal mine. Guns, like gold, are also portable wealth and can be turned into whatever you want with ease--this is especially true with guns where the ownership trail is interrupted.*Cho* wrote:Not that I agree with what is being done, but wouldn't publishing the names of people who have guns in their homes make it worse for the people who don't, such as the state attorney general?
It is just like that joke picture that said something like "I have a gun but my neighbor doesn't *points over there*"
I mean if I was a robber and I knew one house had a firearm and the other didn't I'd take the house that didn't.
I see, that is a very good point. Is there storage requirements for fire arms in the US? Do hand guns have to be placed in safes or at least trigger locked? Not that trigger locks aren't hard to break...I'm just wondering since I'm Canadian and only familiar with our gun laws.2cha wrote:Or, if you needed a gun and couldn't buy one due to age, or legal/mental disability, you could wait until I went to work and then steal mine. Guns, like gold, are also portable wealth and can be turned into whatever you want with ease--this is especially true with guns where the ownership trail is interrupted.