Spyderco+Cold Steel collab?
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tacticooledc
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Spyderco+Cold Steel collab?
Before all I get hit by all the rage bombs, think about it:
spyderco's macho side coming out with a beefy tri-ad lock (CS), a CpmS30V blade (Spyderco), a steel pommel (ak-47 model), skeletonized steel liners (like most spyderco's), and a handle that wraps around the user's hand (like the CS spartan or ak47).
I'd buy 3 of those and drool all over them every day
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spyderco's macho side coming out with a beefy tri-ad lock (CS), a CpmS30V blade (Spyderco), a steel pommel (ak-47 model), skeletonized steel liners (like most spyderco's), and a handle that wraps around the user's hand (like the CS spartan or ak47).
I'd buy 3 of those and drool all over them every day
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I remember that topic. and with all due respect, the way I see it, anyone can claim anything without justifying it. Sal stated that, followed by someone asking for info on the tests or some justification, and ending it sal saying the information is confidential and for use only by the spyderco company :rolleyes:jzmtl wrote:FWIW Sal has stated that they have tested the tri-ad lock, and it's not any stronger than spyderco's in house locks.
Rather than hating Cold Steel and defending against competition with words, why not take a page out of their book and show some weight tests as actual backing to the words?
Who was hating against cold steel? I don't see any hatred--jibes about marketing stunts, but hate? When you start putting words to others' fingertips, I assume that you're looking for a fight. Probably won't found it here because the same man you implicitly called a liar has set up pretty clear rules for how people should act on his forum, I suggest you read them BTW, one of which is that we don't trash other companies here.tacticooledc wrote:
Rather than hating Cold Steel
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I may have used the term hate loosely according to your preferences, but you are a hypocrite. Me calling Sal a liar? No, but i guess YOU are one to be looking for a fight as you are putting words to my fingertips. I think you should go back and read what I said about video demonstration backing.2cha wrote:Who was hating against cold steel? I don't see any hatred--jibes about marketing stunts, but hate? When you start putting words to others' fingertips, I assume that you're looking for a fight. Probably won't found it here because the same man you implicitly called a liar has set up pretty clear rules for how people should act on his forum, I suggest you read them BTW, one of which is that we don't trash other companies here.
I don't see the point, pretty much all you are asking for is a Cold Steel knife made with S30V...tacticooledc wrote:Before all I get hit by all the rage bombs, think about it:
spyderco's macho side coming out with a beefy tri-ad lock (CS), a CpmS30V blade (Spyderco), a steel pommel (ak-47 model), skeletonized steel liners (like most spyderco's), and a handle that wraps around the user's hand (like the CS spartan or ak47).
I'd buy 3 of those and drool all over them every day
:cool:
Sal doesn't need to post the results of their in-house testing of any product, , ,theirs or another company's. Imagine what kind of S storm that would cause if Spyderco was to come out and say that they tested another company's lock and found it to take 'X' amount of force to compromise it. The other company would no doubt flip out and claim their testing showed something different. Personally, I think it's smart to test competitor's products, but I'd think it pretty low class to post your results for everyone to see. Sal does not impress me as low class, and I for one respect his right to collect business intelligence, and his prerogative not to share that with the internet public..
Also, I too think the original post referring to Sal's comment could easily be interpreted as someone trying to provoke an argument.
Also, I too think the original post referring to Sal's comment could easily be interpreted as someone trying to provoke an argument.
Anyways... :confused:
No thanks. Not for me personally. I think the philosophies are too far apart to make a healthy blend. I would like to see a Spyderco versian of the CS Tai Pan but that would be subtly stating it could be improved on. A statement which seems hard to present.
Note: I think with the various maker collabs most bases will be covered by Spyderco. The vids from the Shot11 show had quite a varied degree of flavor. Tactical to classy.
No thanks. Not for me personally. I think the philosophies are too far apart to make a healthy blend. I would like to see a Spyderco versian of the CS Tai Pan but that would be subtly stating it could be improved on. A statement which seems hard to present.
Note: I think with the various maker collabs most bases will be covered by Spyderco. The vids from the Shot11 show had quite a varied degree of flavor. Tactical to classy.
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my apologies to those offended by arguments :)SQSAR wrote:Sal doesn't need to post the results of their in-house testing of any product, , ,theirs or another company's. Imagine what kind of S storm that would cause if Spyderco was to come out and say that they tested another company's lock and found it to take 'X' amount of force to compromise it. The other company would no doubt flip out and claim their testing showed something different. Personally, I think it's smart to test competitor's products, but I'd think it pretty low class to post your results for everyone to see. Sal does not impress me as low class, and I for one respect his right to collect business intelligence, and his prerogative not to share that with the internet public..
Also, I too think the original post referring to Sal's comment could easily be interpreted as someone trying to provoke an argument.
i respect sal for his knowledge and experience, but that conversation rubbed me the wrong way. If someone says they make the best product out there and i say 'its not any better than ours' and they say 'oh really, how so?' i definitely wouldn't respond with 'that's classified'
Really people have said similar words about the Axis lock.
A collaboration won't take place because of some sekret wep0n, or at least shouldn't. Spyderco can build any lock extremely strong, look at the Chinook. More difficult is the design, ergos, and performance of all materials.
Axis vs Tri-Ad vs Compression vs Ball Bearing Lock vs Arc Lock?
Who cares? Chance are if one breaks you did something nearly superhumanly stupid or abusive or it's a rarity of lotto winning proportions. You're not going to exceed 200+ lbs/inch of lock strength in a tactical role. Sorry my beater Dragonfly won't break! I've tried
A collaboration won't take place because of some sekret wep0n, or at least shouldn't. Spyderco can build any lock extremely strong, look at the Chinook. More difficult is the design, ergos, and performance of all materials.
Axis vs Tri-Ad vs Compression vs Ball Bearing Lock vs Arc Lock?
Who cares? Chance are if one breaks you did something nearly superhumanly stupid or abusive or it's a rarity of lotto winning proportions. You're not going to exceed 200+ lbs/inch of lock strength in a tactical role. Sorry my beater Dragonfly won't break! I've tried
Exactly my thoughts. +1markg wrote:I don't see the point, pretty much all you are asking for is a Cold Steel knife made with S30V...
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- William James, from The Will to Believe, a guest lecture at Yale University in 1897
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Pass. No thank you.
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This +1!SQSAR wrote:Sal doesn't need to post the results of their in-house testing of any product, , ,theirs or another company's. Imagine what kind of S storm that would cause if Spyderco was to come out and say that they tested another company's lock and found it to take 'X' amount of force to compromise it. The other company would no doubt flip out and claim their testing showed something different. Personally, I think it's smart to test competitor's products, but I'd think it pretty low class to post your results for everyone to see. Sal does not impress me as low class, and I for one respect his right to collect business intelligence, and his prerogative not to share that with the internet public..
Oh and... PASS! I prefer Spydies and Cold Steels as they are.
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