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How big are those 'yotes anyway?
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30 to 45 pounds average. But I have killed a couple 60+ pounders in the last few years.
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If the wife won't allow a firearm, then the new high-velocity spring-piston cockers are the way to go, and they all don't cost an arm and a leg anymore.
In the unincorporated areas of the county where I live, you can take game (rabbit, etc.) with a spring-piston type pellet gun, but it's illegal to use anything that stores energy as a gas (CO2, pump action, etc.), even on your own land.
When my Sheridan was new, it chrono'd in the mid-500's. At 900fps mv, a proper 5mm pellet would do the job at close range.
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That Coyote was living and hunting in those lands long before the guy who kept chickens were, get a better lock up systems for you chickens, and above all get a good dog!
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Well, coyotes in general, perhaps, but that particular coyote probably wasn't more than 6 yrs old.... :D
It is unfortunate, but nature is not fair, and Man has a way of 'imposing stewardship' over land and creature, and managing as he sees fit, and not always fairly to creature.

When the Aliens come, they'll be imposing stewardship, too...on two-legged coyotes--it's nature.
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Javascript wrote:Well, coyotes in general, perhaps, but that particular coyote probably wasn't more than 6 yrs old.... :D
It is unfortunate, but nature is not fair, and Man has a way of 'imposing stewardship' over land and creature, and managing as he sees fit, and not always fairly to creature.

When the Aliens come, they'll be imposing stewardship, too...on two-legged coyotes--it's nature.
I agree with this as unfair as it may seem. I think if the coyotes had more intellegence, ability to use it (and thumbs of course) they would take advantage of anything that enabled them to survive in the best manner possible. I think we would all agree that humans would be in big trouble if we were limited to surviving, fighting and feeding ourselves in the wild BARE HANDED. Humans have placed lots of animal protection laws in effect to prevent extinction of a given breed.

This could become a long, emotional discussion so I suggest we don't get into an animal rights thread. This is not the place and that is not the purpose of this forum. I believe most here are animal lovers (or likers) and aren't cruel to animals.

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merthyrmafia wrote:That Coyote was living and hunting in those lands long before the guy who kept chickens were, get a better lock up systems for you chickens, and above all get a good dog!
That's a fair point and I respect your point of view.

My chickens are free range and my dogs are tied up by local law. Actually my biggest worry is that my terriers will be killed by the coyotes. We never put them out at night without someone standing guard over them, but with this coyote hunting in the afternoon they are in danger. If the property was fenced I'd get a couple of big dogs, but it isn't and I can't afford to fence it in the near future.

Nothing is so common in nature as violent death and that is what this coyote will face if I catch him on my property in daylight. He was back the next day after killing two chickens but by the time I got to the field with my pellet gun I couldn't find him.
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do you have a fence protecting your property? can those yotes hop fences? sorry, never lived on a farm or large property being a city boy.
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OP, I hate repeating it but...Get a REAL firearm. Your Sheridan generates squat point nothing for energy....so...unless you are an expert marksman and closer than 33 feet AND can make perfect shot placement then that coyote is going to laugh raucously and trot off with another chicken. Especially in winter (heavier,thicker coat and fat layer).

I understand your frustration over your poultry and the possible danger to your dogs, but you will do them no good armed as you are. The pellets won't even deter the 'yotes.

At least get a .22 rimfire rifle- it would be a huge improvement. Add a scope and high velocity solid point ammo then go for head shots.

Good luck.
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