This just reminded me: Many Boy/Cub Scouts camps prohibit or discourage fixed blade knives. The reasoning is that if a Scout falls down, they could injure themselves if they land the wrong way on the sheath.Nonprophet wrote:Let me weigh in, as for EDC I don't see most people carrying a larger folder when a Manix will do. Having said that when camping, hiking, or the like some people just plain prefer a folder and, realistically, even if a fixed blade does the same stuff with less complications the truth is the folder, while large, still takes up less space than a fixed blade of equal open length. ALso with a fixed blade you must carry a sheath and to put it somewhere else takes a little effort other than where it is being carried. With a folder, assuming it has a clip, you can hang it here, use it, hang it somewhere else, use it, and then find a reason to clip it somewhere else to hide it cause you're running into town all without having to adjust a sheath and no worries about cutting yourself if you lay it down cause you can fold it closed.
Not drinking Kool-Aid, sir. Just my opinion from what I've seen.sal wrote:Hi Hot Soup,
I think you're drinking too much Kool aid. We've broken Tri-Ad locks and they aren't any stronger than Compression, Ball bearing, lock-backs or Axis locks.
sal
It's not our style to talk smack about other companies or to try to "prove" this or that. But you are making statements on a Spyderco forum that we have our own information about. We can tell you exactly how much force it takes to break something.HotSoup wrote:Not drinking Kool-Aid, sir. Just my opinion from what I've seen.
Thats a bold claim, and I don't deny that you're telling the truth, but it would be the first time I've heard this.
I think Cold Steel and Mr. Demko would want to have a face-off...lol
Well I'd be interested in seeing those stats, as would most people I assume.sal wrote: We can tell you exactly how much force it takes to break something.
I don't think theres anything wrong with looking for proof. The face-off comment was in jest, though :Dsal wrote:I am also not intersted in a "face off". We assume that our customers are intelligent enough to make their own decisons.
Our research is for our own study. Sorry.HotSoup wrote: Well I'd be interested in seeing those stats, as would most people I assume.
You mean like: "AUS-8 has better edge holding than CPM-S30V" or "1/4" thick Tanto blades will penetrate better than thin pointy blades".HotSoup wrote: I don't think theres anything wrong with looking for proof. The face-off comment was in jest, though :D
I don't believe I've ever made those statements....sal wrote:You mean like: "AUS-8 has better edge holding than CPM-S30V" or "1/4" thick Tanto blades will penetrate better than thin pointy blades".
sal
I pretty much agree with everything said above.Nonprophet wrote:Let me weigh in, as for EDC I don't see most people carrying a larger folder when a Manix will do. Having said that when camping, hiking, or the like some people just plain prefer a folder and, realistically, even if a fixed blade does the same stuff with less complications the truth is the folder, while large, still takes up less space than a fixed blade of equal open length. ALso with a fixed blade you must carry a sheath and to put it somewhere else takes a little effort other than where it is being carried. With a folder, assuming it has a clip, you can hang it here, use it, hang it somewhere else, use it, and then find a reason to clip it somewhere else to hide it cause you're running into town all without having to adjust a sheath and no worries about cutting yourself if you lay it down cause you can fold it closed.
Now that all the practical reasons are out of the way, personally I would like to have one for EDC/SD reasons. While any sized knife works, a larger more robust knife has more potential and covers a lot of ground in the less trained hand. Now in Iowa there is a limit I elieve but in January we go to a "shall issue" carry law and I already have my application filled out. Once that's accepted I can carry any length of any type of knife I choose and I have been pondering where I would hang a fixed blade and still wear it comfortably concealed. A folder that was 5 inches closed would still fit in my pocket. That alone says I want one. If SPyderco makes one, I'm in, if not I'll almost surely buy one from another company.
Sorry Hot Soup, I was making refernce to your "looking for proof" comment.HotSoup wrote: I don't believe I've ever made those statements....
I think we've had a misunderstanding here Sal.
The Tri-Ad lock is very strong, and Cold Steel makes a respectable knife. But there are other strong locks as well.HotSoup wrote: As far as I knew, the Tri-Ad lock was very strong, though I knew the comp-lock, just from looking at its design would extremely strong as well.
Then I'll apologize. I took it as such. It sounded like you were implying, on a Spyderco forum, that if we had a Tri-Ad lock, then we could make a strong knife.HotSoup wrote: I didn't intend my comment on the Tri-Ad lock as an attack on Spyderco, at all, but, I was met with 'Don;t drink the Kool-Aid' and then told, "Sorry, we cant show you our numbers, but we expect our customers to make the smart decision"
So yeah...
I think that's a key point with the extra-large folder issue. Certainly, I could take small golok, parang or large fixed-blade knife when I walk the dog through overgrown countryside, but it isn't going to happen.sal wrote:The most important part about a knife is that you have it with you when you need it.
sal
The Military and Para are ground out of 4mm stock, and have about the same blade height as the Resilience. I don't think either of those sacrifice much slicing ability over the Resilience - they just feel more robust to me, and give me confidence that I can put more pressure on the blade.catamount wrote:The Resilience has most of the ingredients I want in a large folder: G-10, FFG, great blade shape, relatively light weight, relatively slim, and easy to carry.
Upgraded blade steel is the main thing I want. I can live with the liner lock, but a compression, or possibly bolt action, lock would be great.
One thing I DON'T want is a thicker blade. IMO, 3 mm is durable enough, without sacrificing slicing ability.
The "IMO" that starts my post stands for "In my opinion". You're entitled to yours as well.Joe Talmadge wrote:That's a generalization that's definitely untrue. I have relatively small hands, love the way my Cuda Maxx feels in the hand. Yes, there's two inches of handle sticking out the back, but that doesn't negate the fact that the part my hand holds onto feels good.
I get it that you don't have a need for a large folder for your purposes. All your reasoning might work really well for you, but you can't apply it universally to the rest of us.
