No more H1 fixed blades?

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has anybody thought of the fact that grinding H-1 work hardens it, and that the hardening in a FFG blade may cause the blade to become more brittle than is safe or allowable for Spyderco company standards?
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SolidState wrote:has anybody thought of the fact that grinding H-1 work hardens it, and that the hardening in a FFG blade may cause the blade to become more brittle than is safe or allowable for Spyderco company standards?
Yep and good point to bring up.

Sadly that's just a "myth" as you forget. Like gravity, cholesterol, and the round Earth belief. ;)
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Blerv wrote:Holy text wall of death :eek:
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SolidState wrote:has anybody thought of the fact that grinding H-1 work hardens it, and that the hardening in a FFG blade may cause the blade to become more brittle than is safe or allowable for Spyderco company standards?
I think I recall hearing someone from Spyderco mentioning that it work hardens without becoming brittle, but I don't know if that's an absolute rule of the steel, and I might just be making that up....
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Heh, nicely put. Though it interests me, I partially wanted it to be available as potential input to the designers too, so I'll leave you alone on that. Thanks though.
I very much appreciate your understanding on this matter. Upon reflection I also realize though that a design I could contribute to might well also save someone's life some day. If you create a pertinent thread I will contribute my design ideas. If you choose to please draw my attention to it though as I am not constantly watching the spydie forum. I do have one thing in particular I would like to see done, which I think might make a difference, although it is not in regard to blade shape.
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Blerv wrote:Yep and good point to bring up.

Sadly that's just a "myth" as you forget. Like gravity, cholesterol, and the round Earth belief. ;)
Touche my friend, touche....

The flying spaghetti monster must have gotten into my forum account.

As a solid-state chemist I am unaware of any crystal system where a buildup of dislocations does not cause brittleness. In fact, most amorphous metals (no net crystal system, aka all dislocations and defects) are incredibly hard and brittle. :cool:
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SolidState wrote: As a solid-state chemist I am unaware of any crystal system where a buildup of dislocations does not cause brittleness. In fact, most amorphous metals (no net crystal system, aka all dislocations and defects) are incredibly hard and brittle. :cool:
The question is how deep does the buildup of dislocations go,how deep is the interface and how do cracks behave in the interface?
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