PB Washers in the Ti/G-10/M4 Military

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PB Washers in the Ti/G-10/M4 Military

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Mostly to Brad S., but really anybody who has taken a Ti/G-10/M4 apart

Just on the off chance I am a dumb a$$, and don't know any better, when you take your knife apart, it has 1 PB washer on each side of the blade, right? Look as I may, I can only see washer(s) on the Ti side. Now there may be 2, it is hard to tell with all of the reflections down in there.

And no, before you ask, I have not taken anything apart YET!!!.

Question is, do I send it back to Golden :confused: ? Now I have shipping cost, another waiting period, and God, what if it gets lost in the mail :eek: .

The knife is a user, so I have no problem taking her apart, presumably after getting a new set of washers from CO.

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I've got washers on both sides of mine. I can see them when I hold up the knife to the light.
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"And no, before you ask, I have not taken anything apart YET!!!.

Question is, do I send it back to Golden?

The knife is a user, so I have no problem taking her apart, presumably after getting a new set of washers from CO."

Opinions????

Why are you asking these questions, Is there a problem with your knife?
Or do you just want to make sure both sides have washers?
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There should be a single washer on each side. It would be really surprising if your knife did not have one on each side. "Opinions?" Get a strong light, your reading specs and look more carefully. If it really isn't there, send it to Golden.

Edit to mention that mine definitely has 1x/side.
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Mine had one on each side when I pulled it apart for blade hardness testing.
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I have looked and looked, and while there may be 2 washers on the Ti side, there are 0 on the G-10/nested liner side. Really what made me notice it was that the opening action is way less smooth than my S90 military. Pics coming if i can get them to turn out.
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If you live in the States I'd recommend contacting Spyderco and have them take care of it.
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I think I recall a Manix 2 leaving the factory that way. Your options would be (assuming you have two washers, but one's in the wrong place) to fix it yourself or send it back to either KW or S.
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There should be 1 washer on each side. It seems odd that they would make the mistake of putting 2 on one side, but could still be possible.

If your sure there are 2 on one side.
I would recommend, taking just the pivot off the knife with a T15 torx removing both washers and placeing them one on each side, and then replace the blade and the pivot. I dont think that would void the warranty since your only touching the pivot, which are common to adjust. I wouldnt take it apart any farther than that.
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Given that a few of these have already changed hands, I guess the question that needs to be asked is was the knife purchased new, or on the secondary market.
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It is brand new from KW. There is a single washer only on the Ti side. I hate to send it in, kinda like sending my wifes Honda to Japan for new wiper blades

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It looks like I can see it on the L side 2nd photo?
Not well lit, but seems to be there?
Maybe its just me?
Can you get just the G-10 side in the photo?
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That is just the edge of the locking cut
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If this is a knife you'll keep, check for a second washer. Fix it if one's on the wrong side. If you're missing one, things get less simple. :(

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JLS wrote:Mine had one on each side when I pulled it apart for blade hardness testing.
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Looks like you only got one washer!

Hate to say it, but send it in. Spyderco will fix it asap and get it back on its way.

Better yet, call... maybe they will just send you the washer...
But I bet they will say send it in.

Do you live in the states?
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CS might send you a new washer or 2 if you ask nicely. Charlynn is very nice and has sent out replacement screws to me earlier. (I'm in Norway and sending my Lil' Temp to the US for a single torx screw seemed excessive ;) )

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Had to ask, Fred. I've read to many posts of people taking things apart and losing pieces not to. Definitely contact Spyderco and see if they will send you the washer, or prefer that you send them the knife.
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I broke down and asked for washers today, we will see if they can ship me some

Deacon, i hear your message. While I am not a guru of disassembly, I have taken apart pretty much everything else I own: S90V Military, ZDP E4, BM 9100 and 943, and an old-style Manix. They all went back fine, I would say the E4 was the hardest.
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JNewell wrote:I think I recall a Manix 2 leaving the factory that way. Your options would be (assuming you have two washers, but one's in the wrong place) to fix it yourself or send it back to either KW or S.
Yup i had a Manix that had 2 on one side. Wasn't crazy, sent it back and came back perfect. I mean the difference was incredible.
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I got my washers today, sure enough, I was missing the one on the G-10 side. Put a new one in, much better action
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