Delica/ Endura V - What improvements/changes would you like to see?

[Fred Sanford]

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4. Offer a DLC'd clip option for discerning customers who want a clip that stays black a long time.

This is the one thing I would agree with. I'd love to see a smoked gray clip or a parkerized clip. Even the process used on the Military clips would rock. They hold up a lot better.

As far as changing anything else, I say don't do it. It's a great knife. Maybe (just maybe) if you're still going to offer the saber flat grind, then bring the grind up just a bit higher. If not, FFG is king.

[Joe Internet]

Before joining this forum I didn't know anyone was still buying the Delica/Endura except as a budget option into a good blade. with so many newer designs in the line I though those were still around for nostalgia.

Well, you don't kick the cash cow out of the barn. :) Only Spyderco could answer this, but I'd bet Delica & Endura sales make a lot of the fancier stuff possible.

Ok, maybe we can get a sprint run of D3/E3 "improved". The handles are still in production for the Pacific Salt and Matriarch. A sprint with the D3/E3 blade, maybe in a different steel, with jimping, screw construction, and a new color, like navy blue.

[phaust]

-eliminate the ricasso and have the blade edge reach the handle (like the current centofante)

-Finer tip for better piercing

-slighter shorter handle so it measeures 4" or less when closed,for better pocket carry

-ffg standard

-Bigger spyderhole for winter gloves

-eliminate liners for easier maintenance and lighter weight.

- Please no choils, its one of the few knives from spyderco without them

I'd like all of these except the first, the reason being I feel the Endura and Delica's design is much more versatile than the Centofante's design (although in terms of aesthetics I like the Centofante better). With the Centofante, doing a hard puncturing task or anything else that pushes the knife back into one's hand runs the risk of that hand slipping into the blade, while with the deeper index finger groove of the Endura and Delica prevents that. The reason I love my Endura is its versatility (it'll take any cutting task I throw at it), so a design change that restricts what it can (safely) do I wouldn't want.

[Blue72]

I'd like all of these except the first, the reason being I feel the Endura and Delica's design is much more versatile than the Centofante's design (although in terms of aesthetics I like the Centofante better). With the Centofante, doing a hard puncturing task or anything else that pushes the knife back into one's hand runs the risk of that hand slipping into the blade, while with the deeper index finger groove of the Endura and Delica prevents that....

I am talking about the unsharpened bottom part of the blade not the finger guard on the handle

[Zenith]

Just increase the cutting edge a bit, that is it IMO. If the design will end up changing to much I will go nuts hunting as many D4 down as possible as it is one of my all time favorite knives.

[Bill1170]

-eliminate the ricasso and have the blade edge reach the handle (like the current centofante)

-Finer tip for better piercing

-slighter shorter handle so it measeures 4" or less when closed,for better pocket carry

-ffg standard

-Bigger spyderhole for winter gloves

-eliminate liners for easier maintenance and lighter weight.

- Please no choils, its one of the few knives from spyderco without them

The advantages of the ricasso on the D4/E4 should be considered before discarding it.

First, it is a safety feature when closing the knife one-handed. The ricasso bumps into the first finger rather than the edge. Compare this with the Tenacious which functions as a cigar cutter when closed onto the first finger.

Second, the ricasso makes sharpening easy because you can reach the whole edge without abrading the handle. This is especially important when using powered methods.

In the absence of metal liners, what would be the best way to implement the 4-way clip mounting? There must be alternate ways, but the liners do this function neatly at the same time that they stiffen the handle.

[HotSoup]

I've been thoroughly convinced, through and through, that the Delica and Endura should never, EVER, have a finger choil! Hahahaha.

Good job people :D

[Jay_Ev]

Bring back the pointy, splinter picker tip like the D3/E3 had. Keep the liners, they are needed to anchor the clip screws. Threading the clip screws directly into FRN is just asking for problems.

[markg]

NO CHOIL! PLEASE, NO CHOIL! This series has never had choils and never should. If you want a choil, there's the Caly or Native route. Don't ruin the Delica or Endura by changing the grip to a choil grip.

Amen...

If you put a 50/50 choil on the Delica I will never buy another one.

You have to keep in mind, that the Delica is often the "darling" of the MBC crowd, and a choil would kill the knife for us.

There are tons of other knives with this feature...

LEAVE THE DELICA ALONE (best "Britney" voice there...)

[6leafdom]

1. no liners
2. choil
3. bring back the delica 3 blade tip. no sheep's foot

don't forget the whole purpose and design philosophy of the knife - LIGTHWEIGHT
therefore making the knife as light as possible should be the first priority... not strength....so liners are not necessary.

ps: maybe base the design on the first delica but with a steel pocket clip + jimping.

[skunk_2]

i think we have enough choices when it comes to CHOILS dont you think?

the only thing i would change, is to go from the straight spine on the blade to a drop point / hunter shape, like on a stretch or m'lark1.

[RIOT]

im glad that the majority of people here disagree about the choil, if Spyderco produced a Delica with a choil of course id buy it for the collection but i would never carry it. i dont like the feel of choils when my fingers are so close to the blade when cutting.

[Jazz]

The advantages of the ricasso on the D4/E4 should be considered before discarding it.

First, it is a safety feature when closing the knife one-handed. The ricasso bumps into the first finger rather than the edge. Compare this with the Tenacious which functions as a cigar cutter when closed onto the first finger.

Very well said. The design is perfect.

- best wishes, Jazz.

[FIMS]

Black G-10 Titanium Frame lock.

[greenfly]

I would like the point put back (like the D3 )and a low ride clip.

[TexSierra]

I would love to see the removal of the liners and the return of the splinter picker tip. I have around 40 Spyderco knives and my good old VG10 Endura is by far my favorite and has been my EDC for more than 10 years. I wish I was able to purchase a newer version of the same knife. Even though the name is still there, the knife is no where near the same. Its too heavy and the saber tip seriously hinders the ability to precisely cut what I need to cut. Sure, my E4 ZDP and VG10 Enduras cut great, but sometimes I need the precision only available with the sharp tip.

[RIOT]

idea 1. i would like to see the removal of the liners but keep the torx screw construction, maybe it could be pulled off with a small liner at the blade only, like a little liner at the hinge.


idea 2. i have to admit all though im totally old fashioned with everything & i love the way the Delica is 100%, it would be pretty cool to see some sort of sprint run test with a compression lock, i dont think the liner lock would work to well on a Delica but maybe an Endura.

[ReGZ_93]

I would like the Blade to Hadle ratio of the Delica 3 back. I really don't like how there is about 3 mm of empty space at the heel of the handle.

[Jazz]

All y'all that want the point back - just run the back of your blade down a course stone until it's back, then use finer stones to smooth it out - very simple.

- best wishes, Jazz.

[Joe Internet]

All y'all that want the point back - just run the back of your blade down a course stone until it's back, then use finer stones to smooth it out - very simple.

A factory swedge like on the Rookie or SS Police would solve the problem, too. :)